APS film?

[ph]

I would like to feed my Leitz C11 since i discovered that the local development outfit does handle C41- APS. Does anyone provide it anywhere?

p.

 

[Don_ih]

I have heard of people reloading them but I don't think it's currently sold new anywhere.

 

[cerber0s]

I went through a bunch of old photos yesterday, looking for some negatives. As I came across a couple of rolls of APS films I though to myself "wow, this did not age well". Sorry to be of no help.

 

[xkaes]

I have heard of people reloading them ...

Do you care to provide any details - or is this just more web-mis-information?????

Curious minds want to know.

 

[Don_ih]

is this just more web-mis-information

Not quite but sorta. There are problems (1) some cameras require the data strip on the film (2) the film possibly needs to be thicker than 35mm film stock (3) the film needs the correct perforations.
In other words, it's possible, but it's too much of a pain to be worthwhile.

 

[Paul Howell]

Folks cut and reload 110 and 126, the trouble with APS, as noted by Don ih, is the magnetic strip that records the frame number, what size print C, H, or pano. I don't think an APS can advance to the next frame without the data strip.

 

[Don_ih]

I don't think an APS can advance to the next frame without the data strip.

From what I've read, the least-sophisticated APS cameras can. Probably not the camera @ph owns, though.

 

[Paul Howell]

I think your right, on the more advanced bodies that allow for date and time capture and mid roll rewind and return. Surprised no one has attempted to reload a cartilage with cut down film and home made sprockets.

 

[xkaes]

Not quite but sorta.

Kinda, sorta???? It sounds like DOA!!!

 

[Patrick Robert James]

The film isn't made anymore of course and hasn't been made for quite some time. Your best bet is a place like Ebay and cross your fingers the film is still good.

 

[Mackinaw]

I would like to feed my Leitz C11 since i discovered that the local development outfit does handle C41- APS. Does anyone provide it anywhere?

p.

The FPP store sells APS film.

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Jim B.

 

[Cholentpot]

I'm attempting to reload APS. I managed recently to get some 126 working by punching my own pefs into some film. From what I understand APS cameras really just need the perfs to work. The data strip should not affect the film theoretically.

As for thickness, you can use cine film with Remjet and it would help. I'll know more after I fail a bunch of times.

 

[Don_ih]

It sounds like DOA

No, it sounds like it's too much trouble. But some people are willing to mess around, at least once or twice, to get something to work (which is good, because if no one was willing to do that, we'd all still be living in mud huts eating berries).

 

[foc]

I went through a bunch of old photos yesterday, looking for some negatives. As I came across a couple of rolls of APS films I though to myself "wow, this did not age well". Sorry to be of no help.

I have APS prints 20+ years old and they are just like new. No sign of aging to my eye. I also have the negatives (stored in the original film cassette) but I no longer have the negative extractor for APS so I can't say how the negatives are, but the prints are good.

 

[foc]

These images might help in understanding how the APS film cassette works.

The visual indicator must be in the correct position (1 or 2) for the cassette to work in the camera. Sprocket holes are needed for the film to work in the low spec cameras, it may also be necessary in the more sophisticated camera (they also use the magnetic data strip).

Note the film end on the right of the image above. These two holes are used to attach the negative roll to the center spool in the cassette. It can be very tricky to do in the dark and not damage the spool, the cassette and the light trap.

If someone has reloaded APS cassettes, then I would love to hear how they did it, please.

 

[Don_ih]

If someone has reloaded APS cassettes, then I would love to hear how they did it, please.

There's a Flickr thread that started 11 years ago - active up until 5 months ago. One person claims to have reloaded and shot and developed a roll.

 

[cerber0s]

I have APS prints 20+ years old and they are just like new. No sign of aging to my eye. I also have the negatives (stored in the original film cassette) but I no longer have the negative extractor for APS so I can't say how the negatives are, but the prints are good.

Oh yeah, my prints still look excellent, they are 22 years old now. I meant that the whole APS system didn’t age well.

 

[xkaes]

No, it sounds like it's too much trouble. But some people are willing to mess around, at least once or twice, to get something to work (which is good, because if no one was willing to do that, we'd all still be living in mud huts eating berries).

You obviously don't understand the "punching" system of the APS format. People have had a hard enough time trying to create simple 110 punches from 16mm unperforated film. APS punching is much more complicated. {redacted}

 

[Don_ih]

You obviously don't understand the "punching" system of the APS format. People have had a hard enough time trying to create simple 110 punches from 16mm unperforated film. APS punching is much more complicated. {redacted}

I suggest you reread the thread. I never said I did it, I never said I would do it, I did say someone claimed to have done it and, if you follow the link, you could read that for yourself.
{redacted}

 

[Cholentpot]

You obviously don't understand the "punching" system of the APS format. People have had a hard enough time trying to create simple 110 punches from 16mm unperforated film. APS punching is much more complicated. You don't know what you are talking about. If you can do it -- PROVE IT -- or shut up, and stop spreading myths.

It's been done already. Some guy posted photos of it, and it's not like they're perfect punches either.

 

[xkaes]

It's been done already. Some guy posted photos of it, and it's not like they're perfect punches either.

Same old, same old. Some guy, some where -- in my recollection said something about some guy who claimed to have................. {redacted}

If it had been done, we would all know about it.

 

[ph]

The FPP store sells APS film.

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Jim B.

 

[ph]

Excellent suggestion even if their films are expired it will be a chance to try this peculiar Leitz product which has been sitting on a shelf since i found it cheaply at a market.

p.

 

[Cholentpot]

Same old, same old. Some guy, some where -- in my recollection said something about some guy who claimed to have................. {redacted}

If it had been done, we would all know about it.

Here's my home-made 126. I ran it through a Kodak Instamatic X-90. These are spring driven automatic cameras that will only work if there are perfs in the film. If there are no perfs the film runs out to the end. Should be the same concept as APS. As long as the perf engages a feeler you should in theory be able to take a photo.

I need a more effective punch.

The guy on flicker posted negatives of APS that looks more or less the same as mine.

You send me a blank APS roll and I'll make an attempt.

 

[Paul Howell]

Here in the states Ebay and ESTAY has or had a fair amount of expired APS, prices can be pretty hefty. My wife shot with a Kodak APS camera for several years, it did a good up to 5X7 with slow film, the prints on R4 paper will last as long as a print made from a 35mm or 120 negative, it's the paper not the negative.