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So I own a couple of Bronicas (Etrs & Etrsi ) , as for the metal vs plastic , well the lens release on the Etrs is metal and the Etrsi is plastic , that's pretty
much the extent of differences on the outside . There is less than 20 gms difference between the two bodies and a magnet sticks to all the same places on each . So I'm not so sure
there's a lot of mileage with this plastic feel of an newer body compared to the older one. And yes the new one is the lighter of them ! FWIW though , the lens are easier
to remove with the plastic release button . Peter

I believe the ETR-Si adds the mirror lock-up. Older ETR-S does not have it. I have the regular black ETR-Si and the limited edition chrome ETR-Si. It is just so hard to find any older ETR-S bodies in good condition.
 

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^ Quite correct on that , was also my reason for buying it , and of course promptly used it incorrectly and wasted a few frames .
Also , when on a tripod , I couldn't really see any difference in the negs with or without the mirror lockup . Any experience on
whether or not the shutter speed plays a roll on an improved neg ? Peter
 
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^ Quite correct on that , was also my reason for buying it , and of course promptly used it incorrectly and wasted a few frames .
Also , when on a tripod , I couldn't really see any difference in the negs with or without the mirror lockup . Any experience on
whether or not the shutter speed plays a roll on an improved neg ? Peter

I think most of the films available now are ISO 100 or 200. So it is hard to shoot film in dim lighting. With some of the fast Bronica lenses, such as PE 75mm F2.8, you can set very fast speed. Both WLF and prism+grip can give you some support and do the hand-held. All these can help you get to good negatives.
 

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ETRSi w/PE 75mm ƒ2.8, @ ƒ2.8 and 1/30sec. Delta 3200 (probably would have been easier with a tripod):

 

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ETRSi - Zenzanon MC 50mm f/2.8 - Portra 400

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ETRSi - Zenzanon PE 75mm f/2.8 - Ilford XP2 Super
 
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SQ-A 80mm with TMax 100.

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I've had the S2a for a couple of months now, and I love its shiny exterior and handling. Only major drawback for me is that the distance scale only works with my 75mm Nikkor-P.





 

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Ilford FP4+ w/ 75mm f2.8 Nikkor lens on S2a.
 

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Wonder why so few people use the 6x7 GS. Just the 6x7 format is boring, or the gear is too large for field use? I carry it to the field and I do not feel it is much larger or heavier than the SQ body.
Likely it's because the Mamiya RB67 is superior in that format.
 

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Most of these years, in 645 format, I've had, loved and still am a big fan of original Pentax 645 (not the follow ups and I do have the NII). Then I went for Mamiya 645 1000 when price was right on a package and realized how much WLF was amiss in my hands. Both lack interchangeable backs, so there came the ETRSi.

Now it is hard to make a call which one to take for a walk. Pentax annoys me now a bit with fixed grip and permanent motor drive, so it is noisy at all times and much larger for the grip, but fantastic camera in all other departments.

The ETRSi is a revelation in many ways, very positive one. I actually started on Bronica brand with EC (nearly got the S2A at first), which is so sweet in every way and much better controlled mirror than on S2. I will probably never understand how Bronica figured to have back detach by simple pressing of dark slide further in, but one just needs to remember that. It seems logical when doing that, one would be wrapping the whole back with his hand at the same time, but there are other ways to press in that dark slide. So, it is quick as hell, but probably too quick at the same time. And the back drops right off, unlike ETR where release button is also simple to use, but back is still hanging onto the camera until tilted up quite a bit. Either one of these however feel great.

On pricing I don't think I agree with any suggestions Bronicas are below other brands (Hassy aside). Perhaps it used to be but I do not see that now. In 67 format I'd never chose GS over Mamiya RB. It must be stated that Europe has far fewer Bronicas to offer than US or Japan and that affects EU market in this sense.
 

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Likely it's because the Mamiya RB67 is superior in that format.

The RB/RZ have the advantage of the rotating back, but this means they and their lenses have to cover 7x7 (seems slight but leads to a not insignificant increase in bulk). The Pentax 6x7 is more portable and for many more convenient to use.
 

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^ Quite correct on that , was also my reason for buying it , and of course promptly used it incorrectly and wasted a few frames .
Also , when on a tripod , I couldn't really see any difference in the negs with or without the mirror lockup . Any experience on
whether or not the shutter speed plays a roll on an improved neg ? Peter
Mirror lock up will make a difference in particular conditions and it is really recommended for all shots that do not require quick release to freeze the moment. This is just to avert any possibilities of camera shake playing part in final sharpness. Alternatively, never use lock up, and when picture is not up to expectations ... just call it art.

But in this sense ETRSi gives the quick access to mirror lock up at a flip of a lever so there is no excuse not to use it when possible. I'll add that "freezing the moment" may also apply in a seemingly static shot, but with clouds running fast or river breaking up in random ways etc. so not always prudent to lock up the mirror and miss the right snap.
 

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... And the GS-1 is smaller and more straightforward than an RB or RZ.

I don't how more straightforward a camera needs to be. While GS is somewhat smaller than RB, it is still a big camera and RB is superior in every other way. Rotating back alone is killing any comparison argument, IMHO of course. Add bellows extension built in and there is no going back, especially if one wants to play around with closer focusing and/or pinhole photography.

The RB Pro SD is the one to get BTW and SD film backs.
 

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The RB/RZ have the advantage of the rotating back, but this means they and their lenses have to cover 7x7 (seems slight but leads to a not insignificant increase in bulk). The Pentax 6x7 is more portable and for many more convenient to use.
No disagreement there, I was plainly going after the GS.
 
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