Alert about a possible problem batch of Xtol

mshchem · Dec 9, 2019

Kodak Alaris is shipping replacement packages, mine shipped today (even though my batch turned out to be ok).
My new message of support!

mshchem · Dec 11, 2019

I got my replacement XTOL from Alaris today. No worries

focus_on_infinity · Dec 29, 2019

Just one more data point. I recently mixed up a batch of Xtol from the exact date in question, and it works perfectly. No issues whatsoever.

Adrian Bacon · Jun 29, 2020

I just received some replacement packets of XTOL for some bad batch packets that made it into my queue of XTOL to use And there are some differences.

the bad batch has the A and B backers taped together and the two packets are the newer white plastic bags.

the new replacement XTOL has the same two white plastic A and B bags, but instead of them being taped together, they’re both put insider of another larger white plastic bag that is also sealed (see crappy cellphone pictures above), interesting. Makes me wonder if the single bags taped together were stressing the welded seems enough that they weren’t as airtight as initially thought.

Tom Kershaw · Jun 29, 2020

Adrian,

Your new XTOL package looks similar to the most recent one I've received.

Tom

Pioneer · Jun 29, 2020

I haven't used any XTOL since I had a 3 month old batch die on me awhile back. No advantage to using it from my perspective. Perhaps if I had been using it for quite some time I would feel different but that was my first, and last, time working with it.

HC110 and Rodinal last halfway to forever and I mix my other developers fresh.

Adrian Bacon · Jun 29, 2020

Tom Kershaw said:
Adrian,

Your new XTOL package looks similar to the most recent one I've received.

Tom

I would say that’s a good thing. Kodak’s customer support assured me that the new replacements will work as expected.

Adrian Bacon · Jun 29, 2020

Pioneer said:
I haven't used any XTOL since I had a 3 month old batch die on me awhile back. No advantage to using it from my perspective. Perhaps if I had been using it for quite some time I would feel different but that was my first, and last, time working with it.

HC110 and Rodinal last halfway to forever and I mix my other developers fresh.

it generally gives more toe speed than other developers and subjectively gives a nicer grain pattern, though if your preference is different, there’s nothing wrong with that either.

Pioneer · Jun 29, 2020

Adrian Bacon said:
it generally gives more toe speed than other developers and subjectively gives a nicer grain pattern, though if your preference is different, there’s nothing wrong with that either.

Thanks Adrian. Not typically a problem I worry too much about and if I do there are other solutions.

Meow7 · May 25, 2024

I just mixed a new batch of Xtol and I did a roll yesterday, came out thin, undeveloped and full of crapola! I chalked it up to I messed the time (which I did). Today I did 2 rolls of P3200 ( I did not mess up the time this time). Same thing. Granted it's a tad expired, 2/23 but I never had this issue before. So bad batches are still out there. Also part A never fully dissolved. I am wondering if the "old style" bag cat 516 0361 will be ok even if it too is expired 10/2020? Ugh. 3 rolls gone, poof! Has there been problems with newer batches? Thanks!

Melvin J Bramley · May 25, 2024

In the bottom right hand corner of the packaging it says; made by Boeing!
Time to find another developer?

Meow7 · May 25, 2024

Yeah, made by Boeing... I am sadly ending my long love affair with Xtol. I fear it will never be true again. Trying the Adox Xt3 and the Legacy Pro stuff works well as well.

Melvin J Bramley · May 25, 2024

Shame really.
I only tried XTOL once and really liked it.
Due to my low volume film processing I risked dividing it up into 1 litre batches and it worked!

retina_restoration · May 25, 2024

Meow7 said:
Yeah, made by Boeing... I am sadly ending my long love affair with Xtol. I fear it will never be true again. Trying the Adox Xt3 and the Legacy Pro stuff works well as well.

There's no reason to abandon Xtol - just don't use expired chemistry. It's 15 months past its expiration date, so....

Meow7 · May 25, 2024

Yes to not using expired chems, but it was one of the batches posted by Kodak as being bad, 2/27/2020. "If you have XTOL Catalog #1058338 with the following Date Codes: 2019/10/07, 2019/12/19, 2020/02/25, 2020/02/26, 2020/02/27".

Melvin J Bramley · May 25, 2024

I have used 35 year old canned Kodak D76 and Accufine with success.
I just wish I could buy Accufine again.
Still seems off opening a developer with a can opener.

Samson · Dec 30, 2024

Meow7 said:
Yes to not using expired chems, but it was one of the batches posted by Kodak as being bad, 2/27/2020. "If you have XTOL Catalog #1058338 with the following Date Codes: 2019/10/07, 2019/12/19, 2020/02/25, 2020/02/26, 2020/02/27".

Hey Meow7, have you still got the rehoused Komica lens? You mentioned you had one in a post in 2017!

koraks · Dec 30, 2024

Samson said:
Hey Meow7, have you still got the rehoused Komica lens? You mentioned you had one in a post in 2017!

Welcome aboard @Samson!
@Meow7 hasn't signed on to Photrio since May or so, so they may not respond very swiftly (or at all).
Also, it might help if you could indicate which post you mean. We can then move your question to the appropriate thread. Please don't hesitate to use the 'report' function to explain what you want and we'll see if we can help. Let's keep this thread focused on XTOL.

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