ADOX acquires Ilford´s (Switzerland) medium scale coating line

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Could you operate the machine within a Swiss company structure?

We are currently founding a subsidary in Marly which will operate the machine.
Most material will stay here (base, emulsions etc.), cross the border for coating and then come back free of customs.
it´s another country but cross border business takes place everyday between Baden Würtemberg/Bavaria and Switzerland.
In fact we are just to get our brand new 4 wheel drive Mercedes Sprinter who´s in charge of this in the future ;-)
We are also expanding our premises close to Berlin. In fact we will double the space next year with a new building.
More operations call for more storage space.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Congratulations on the new van 4WD vans would be useful over here with our road surfaces and slushy winters but they don't seem very common.

Tom

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

4WD vans would be useful over here with our road surfaces and slushy winters but they don't seem very common

We had a six months waiting period. The guy told me the bottleneck is the 4WD conversion which is just offered by MB since the beginning of the year ;-)
it´s an optional 4WD, not permanent so we have less fuel consumption in the summer.

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

I have uploaded the video in better quality:

[video=youtube;vhW77dN94S0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhW77dN94S0[/video]

 

[Hatchetman]

Ok. I'm excited again. You make it and I'll buy it!

 

[Ken Nadvornick]

I loved the triumphant double-arm pump!

Also love the piano music at 3:13...

My thanks to the camera operator and staff. While I may not understand everything I see, just seeing what an actual coating operation looks like as it's happening gives me a whole new perspective on using the sheets and rolls of film that result. With that much precision and effort being expended, I need to try harder to do interesting things with it.

This is really cool to watch. Even more than once.



Ken

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Also love the piano music at 3:13...

My thanks to the camera operator and staff. While I may not understand everything I see, just seeing what an actual coating operation looks like as it's happening gives me a whole new perspective on using the sheets and rolls of film that result.

The camera operators knees still hurt because of all the crawling he had to do through the machine with the camera in hand. Inside the machine there are small steel ladders onto which one climbs up and down through the stories. Then you need to crawl over wooden bridges through the massive drying channels to reach the next ladder etc.

I cut in the piano because of the awful sound of the airblade on the coating edges ;-)

Mirko

 

[Jerevan]

This is so cool ... just wish I had enough money so that I could hang around as an intern (Volontariat).

I really wish you all the best with this endeavour!

 

[Jim17x]

That got me excited!!!

 

[Bob Carnie]

Dumb question - Is this coating line a film line only?

 

[Bob Carnie]

Sorry to lazy to read all the posts, answered early.

second dumb question

What products do you plan, and are there any emulsions that you see coming from past emulsions?

 

[Bob Carnie]

Do you have representation for your products in Canada.. cross border shopping is a pain.

 

[LJH]

Due to stupid european regulations we are obliged by law to call the films in metric sizes first.
Actually it is alreday in the grey area to put the 7x17 at all in the product description. These things are enforced in Germany by private advocats who search the internet for mistakes one might have made and then they send the so called "Abmahnung" and cash in (guess which profession is by far the largest group in the Bundestag?).
Thus we urge you to use the shop-filters (size) in order to look for sheetfilm sizes rather than scrolling through the products.

Thanks!

 

[LJH]

7x17":
http://www.fotoimpex.de/shopen/film...-10-blatt-178x432-cm-7x17-inch-10-sheets.html

8x20":
http://www.fotoimpex.de/shopen/film...-25-blatt-203x508-cm-8x20-inch-25-sheets.html

Thanks!

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Do you have representation for your products in Canada

Freesytle for sure supplies to Canada and then we have Argentix. We´d love Amplis to join in as well but they are "thinking about it" since qute some time now.

 

[Bob Carnie]

It would be great to have representation in Canada, nothing wrong with Freestyle but shipping customs is a real PIA

Freesytle for sure supplies to Canada and then we have Argentix. We´d love Amplis to join in as well but they are "thinking about it" since qute some time now.

 

[twelvetone12]

Wow congrats Adox! It is terrific news. I always pass near the factory when jogging and I used to be sad that it was shut down. I didn't know the Swiss Ilford was based in Fribourg until after it closed!
Best of luck to you, I can't wait for the new products. You should open a factory shop

 

[flavio81]

It would be great to have representation in Canada, nothing wrong with Freestyle but shipping customs is a real PIA

LOL... now I understand why there's a Frank Zappa song titled "Canadian Customs"

 

[MattKrull]

It would be great to have representation in Canada, nothing wrong with Freestyle but shipping customs is a real PIA

Argentix.ca
Jacques is a APUG advertiser, and offers really good prices on ADOX/Rollei stuff in Canada. He doesn't get teh same shipping deals from Canada post that amazon gets, so expect to pay $10 shipping on any order, but you can get 25 rolls of film in that $10.
His prices for Adox/Rollei film is less than what B&H is asking, so that is fantastic.

 

[Bob Carnie]

Hi Matt

Ginette mentioned him as well in a previous post I will look into this avenue.

Bob

Argentix.ca
Jacques is a APUG advertiser, and offers really good prices on ADOX/Rollei stuff in Canada. He doesn't get teh same shipping deals from Canada post that amazon gets, so expect to pay $10 shipping on any order, but you can get 25 rolls of film in that $10.
His prices for Adox/Rollei film is less than what B&H is asking, so that is fantastic.

 

[swittmann]

These are such great news, Mirko! Congratulations! I wish you and fotoimpex all the best!

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

Make a real B&W infra-red film.

 

[iulian]

Make a real B&W infra-red film.

I second (or third) this.
I just bought some Rollei stuff in 135, 120 and 4x5 to shoot infrared (Retro 80s and Rollei Infrared). A true IR film would get most of my budget.
I'm guessing a regular emulsion with lots of red/near-infrared dye and no other dyes would be quite fast.
Sheet sizes would be a plus because at the moment the only LF infrared is the 4x5 Rollei stuff and that has a thin base due to it being aerial film and stuff.

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

I'm guessing a regular emulsion with lots of red/near-infrared dye and no other dyes would be quite fast.

This would not work. You could choose a sensitizer which is peaking at IR and steeply falling off making it not sensitive to green but then it would rise at blue agan.
However this only reduces the speed of the film if exposed without an IR filter and does not help you to get higher IR sensitivity.

 

[Xmas]

Hi

Adox staff have to eat and buy lattes an IR film is a low volume film hence the early demise of HIE.
Adox need a test run of a niche film to sell in volume at a large margin.
Eg a grainy 800 ISO at normal 400 ISO € or close to might sell well but might cancel the lattes.
Difficult value judgement.

After they are selling one or two bread and butter films in volume and taking indigestion tabs they could look other markets.

The foma400 has some IR capability even if slow with a black filter.