2013 ULF Manufacture From ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited

[RattyMouse]

I thought so, yes. And the last Portra I bought, last fall, had reasonably far out expiration dates.

As I said above I'm tempted to go 100% Ilford for black and white. I'd like to support those who best support us, and their materials are superb and I could be quite happy using just Ilford for black and white but that doesn't help with color.

Agreed. It is time for film shooters to "put their money where there mouth is" and support Ilford. No company anywhere is doing more to keep film alive than Ilford. Every roll of b & w film shot on Kodak or Fuji is one less modicum of support for Ilford.

I LOVE Acros film, but once my supply runs out, I'm going to move towards Ilford. Once my supply of Tri-X is out, I am done with it. Fuji's support of film is moderate and Kodak's is nonexistent.

 

[StoneNYC]

Agreed. It is time for film shooters to "put their money where there mouth is" and support Ilford. No company anywhere is doing more to keep film alive than Ilford. Every roll of b & w film shot on Kodak or Fuji is one less modicum of support for Ilford.

I LOVE Acros film, but once my supply runs out, I'm going to move towards Ilford. Once my supply of Tri-X is out, I am done with it. Fuji's support of film is moderate and Kodak's is nonexistent.

Yea, I agree, however fuji has both Velvia which I love and Acros which actually I don't love, but the reciprocity failure rate is what I love, if Ilford could match that with some new FP5 ("FP4++"? hmm maybe "FP4Super"! I would never need any other B&W film at least.

PS Simon... Fuji is discontinuing all their 220 rolls... if you can give them a low ball offer for their currently running equipment for that, now's the time I know you said it wasn't viable to do as a new production investment, but buying out fuji who will probably toss it in the garbage otherwise might be worth it perhaps?

 

[MattKing]

The best thing you can do to support Ilford is to actively support the entire industry. Buying and using and printing Kodak film helps Ilford and Fuji and Tetenal and Oriental and Moersch and ....

 

[Sal Santamaura]

...Fuji is discontinuing all their 220 rolls... if you can give them a low ball offer for their currently running equipment for that, now's the time...

I had the same idea about QuickLoad finishing equipment, hoping for Delta 100 packets. Unfortunately, even if Fuji were willing to sell it to HARMAN (most unlikely), the cost of disassembly, transport to Mobberley and reassembly would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not economically viable given the small potential market size and limits on what users would be willing pay for the product.

I suspect similar circumstances prevail with respect to Fuji's 220 finishing equipment.

 

[StoneNYC]

I had the same idea about QuickLoad finishing equipment, hoping for Delta 100 packets. Unfortunately, even if Fuji were willing to sell it to HARMAN (most unlikely), the cost of disassembly, transport to Mobberley and reassembly would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not economically viable given the small potential market size and limits on what users would be willing pay for the product.

I suspect similar circumstances prevail with respect to Fuji's 220 finishing equipment.

That's true, when I was at Dwayne's, he told me that they were trying to GIVE AWAY the machine that processed Kodachrome and a few museums were interested until they found out the size and the cost of disassembly and transport etc, and so I think it ended up going to the dump ... I can't be sure of course I never called to confirm but as of the last day of official acceptance of film, they hadn't found anyone to take it. I guess that's possible with this too, it was worth mentioning though.

 

[RattyMouse]

The best thing you can do to support Ilford is to actively support the entire industry. Buying and using and printing Kodak film helps Ilford and Fuji and Tetenal and Oriental and Moersch and ....

The BEST way to support ILFORD is to buy ILFORD products.

 

[Roger Cole]

I had the same idea about QuickLoad finishing equipment, hoping for Delta 100 packets. Unfortunately, even if Fuji were willing to sell it to HARMAN (most unlikely), the cost of disassembly, transport to Mobberley and reassembly would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. Not economically viable given the small potential market size and limits on what users would be willing pay for the product.

I suspect similar circumstances prevail with respect to Fuji's 220 finishing equipment.

Now there's an idea - Delta 100 (and 400, pleaseplease!) and/or FP4+ and HP5+ in QL. XP2 Super in QL!

Then I woke up.

 

[spoolman]

If Iford/Harman is or will consider cutting 3 5/8 ths film for next years ULF Event, then I'll put an order in for 6-100 foot rolls of HP5+ if the cost per roll is between $100.00 and $150.00. if more than that I'd half to cut the order in half.

Doug

 

[Simon R Galley]

Sal has it in one ( twice ! )

Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology LImited :

 

[filmamigo]

3 and 5 / 8ths film, It 'could' be possible, I think we would need something like 80 orders of 30m bulk lengths, just to cover the time to set and re-set the slitters it would need to be in a 'generic' box, not tubbed. I will have it checked out. It could only be one film HP5+ is my guess?

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

Thanks for the update! Fingers crossed that this size might make the list...

 

[BILL3075]

Thanks, once again, Simon,

It would be great if Ilford also offered many of these ULF sizes in Delta 400.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Ilford offer it years ago, when the Delta line was first introduced. 13cmx18cm comes to mind.

Bill

 

[Neanderman]

Hi Everyone,

3 and 5 / 8ths film, It 'could' be possible, I think we would need something like 80 orders of 30m bulk lengths, just to cover the time to set and re-set the slitters it would need to be in a 'generic' box, not tubbed. I will have it checked out. It could only be one film HP5+ is my guess?

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

That would work for me.

Ed

 

[StoneNYC]

So I'm confused, where do I buy the 70mm? You said FP4+ and HP5+ right? I don't want to miss out... Where do I find prices? And in what quantities? I've never been part of this so some of my knowledge is lacking here. Thanks!

 

[Simon R Galley]

We publish all the information in April and then our ULF re-seller partners get all the information and confirmation of prices from our distributor and you then contact the ULF re-seller partner to place an order. We will make sure you do not get left behind or miss out !

Simon ILFORD photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

 

[StoneNYC]

We publish all the information in April and then our ULF re-seller partners get all the information and confirmation of prices from our distributor and you then contact the ULF re-seller partner to place an order. We will make sure you do not get left behind or miss out !

Simon ILFORD photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

thanks!


~Stone

Mamiya: 7 II, RZ67 Pro II / Canon: 1V, AE-1, 5DmkII / Kodak: No 1 Pocket Autographic, No 1A Pocket Autographic | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[StoneNYC]

I have another request 46mm bulk roll film in HP5+ or FP4+? This can be used to hand re-roll into 127 roll film spools. Any chance?


~Stone

Mamiya: 7 II, RZ67 Pro II / Canon: 1V, AE-1, 5DmkII / Kodak: No 1 Pocket Autographic, No 1A Pocket Autographic | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Simon R Galley]

Yes but it would need a minimum, I will publish that later.

Simon. ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

 

[TheToadMen]

FP4+ film sheets in 18x24 centimeters format ??

Dear All,

The management of HARMAN technology Limited have once again approved the annual ULF run of ILFORD Photo film products :
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We are happy to accept further size requests, although we are pretty sure we have most covered! If you make such a request please make sure you actually do order the product as in addition to the above we have 6 sets of ISO standard cutter guides ( that cost several hundreds of pounds each ) that have never been used as no actual orders were received.
We thank all of you who order during the ULF run and thank you for valuing ILFORD Photo products.
Simon.R.Galley ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

Hello Simon,
I'll support Ilford (see also: (there was a url link here which no longer exists) and (there was a url link here which no longer exists)).

And could Ilford please support me? I could use 18x24 cm sheets of FP4+ film (centimeters, not inches) for my old Russian FKD camera.


Thank you!

 

[Simon R Galley]

I will put it on the list

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited

 

[TheToadMen]

I will put it on the list
Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited

Hi Simon,
Thank you for the quick reply.
Maybe I missed something, but how, where and when am I supposed to order?
(I live in The Netherlands).
Bert

 

[wblynch]

I also would buy a 100 ft roll of 46mm, any style.

Very interested to learn what the minimum would be.

 

[Simon R Galley]

The list of our ULF re-seller partners will be published in April

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

 

[Jim Fitzgerald]

Simon, thanks. Going to need some 8x20 FP-4+

 

[oleg-photo]

Simon thanks!

...So 70mm but not perf? You referenced waste, isn't the only waste the punched emulsion "chads" ? Isn't the film production part the same between perf and non-perf?

Thanks for any clarification on that.

And thanks for being an awesome company!


~Stone

As a possible extension of the Harman special sheet film production scheme, is there any interest in something similar in FP4/HP5 in 70mm perforated?

Having run it past the planners at Harman, they are prepared to cut it as a special order for Silverprint. We would have to order a minimum of 60 cans of 30 metres, in either film type, and keeping it priced as competitively as possible it would sell at £80.00 + VAT per roll. This price is not significantly more than the equivalent sq. metres in 35mm 30 metres, so Harman are being supportive here. We would take a chance in holding some stock, but would like around 60-70% of it covered with committed orders to go ahead.

When we first discussed it, Simon Galley estimated it would need a £20-30k order to kick it off - this then came down to 120 cans, so 60 cans is a big concession from Harman. So is there enough of a user base in 70mm to keep a regular supply of the format on tap, in very popular emulsions? We await the response with interest.

Hi Simon,
Thank you for the thread. I left a message on your answer machine earlier today, then I realised that it would be more effective to contact to you via APUG.
You have mentioned that Ilford is not interested in producing 70mm perforated film. Martin Reed at Silverprint wrote about this possibility four years ago. I talked to Martin recently. He said that that time he could not find enough photographers to order a small batch of just 60(!) 30m rolls.
I was about to buy 10 150’ rolls of out-of-dated Kodak Double X (2405) from “that Canadian guy” and some Fujichrome Duplicating from Siverprint or Process Supplies in London (it gives surprisingly natural beautiful colour when C-41 processed), when noticed this thread.
Simon, could you please explain what the “excessive waste” is, and why it is not viable to coat 70mm perforated. What is the bare minimum Ilford would be interested to produce?
Also regarding 35mm. As I could not afford to shoot on photographic film at current prices, I bought recently two 400’ rolls of Kodak Double X (5222) movie film for £84 (+VAT) each. 400’ is equivalent of around 73 cartridges (36 exp.).
Simon, are you able to sell 35mm film in cans of 400’ or 1000’?
Thank you,
Oleg

 

[BentleyR]

If there is a possibility for 70mm perforated production I would certainly place an order. I have a ex-aerial panoramic camera that can consume 1-4'/sec of film. That adds up rather quickly! Depending, of course, on the price I would likely order a number (~5) 150' to 250' rolls.

Allan