Do you mean W S, and not NWS. I don't see NWS onebay but i see W S and CM versions as well as W, but not NWS.
You mean this one?
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The apo sironar S is a newer than the apo symmar.Thanks Besk. Is it(Sk apo symmar mc) newer design than apo sironar s that Gary have?
Thanks Joe. Do you have the CM version or just W (of fujinon)?
Didn't know about Ektar being good for macro. The other lenses i mentioned are also good for macro? (As i understand they were not designed for that)
I only have the two 180mm lenses that I mention. 180mm is not very common. These two just came on my way.
I think all 180mm lenses with the same coverage will perform more or less the same. The variation between individual examples will likely be more. The Apo-Rodagon 1:4.8 f=180mm is an enlarger lens. Less coverage. And as mentioned previously in this thread enlarger lenses will do a better job with still live.
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The Schneider Kreuznach Apo Symmar MC 180mm f/5.6 is the newest design compared to the Sironar-N and should theoretically be better for general photography - which they were designed for.
But you would be hard pressed to see the difference in real life.
I saw Sinar Sinaron S 180mm F5.6 MC lens. Do you think Apo rodagon 180mm enlarging is still better for still life(shooting products+macro sometimes) than this Sinaron S 180mm? (As i understand it's same as Apo-Sironar-N.
The Apo-Sironar-N is not the same als the Apo-Sironar-S. Here is a picture for comparison. Left, Apo-Sironar-S 1:5.6 180mm. Middle Apo-Rodagon 1:4.8 180mm = Right, Sinaron digital 1:4.8 180mm. ( I don’t have a Apo-Sironar-N 180mm )
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The OP wants a 180mm for closeup macro work! I'm surprised nobody here has mentioned the Fujinon 180mm f9 A lens in Copal shutter. I wouldn't try shooting small live critters with it, but it works fine for closeup still lives. Yes, the f9 max aperture is dim for focusing, but I blast my subject with plenty of light just for focusing and then resort to lighting for the shot itself. Super sharp lens for sure. Just a thought, but and may not be what he's looking for, but I love mine.
Someday I might just try it on my 8X10 view camera to see how it works for macro/closeup work coverage wise.I've never used it for macro but it is the default lens on my light weight 4x5 setup. At macro distance I'm sure it would cover a lot more.
Nikkor also made a few macro lenses, but not a 180 as far as I know. But there is a 120 and a 210
Someday I might just try it on my 8X10 view camera to see how it works for macro/closeup work coverage wise.
Sounds pretty right to me. I think that's why Edward Westons "Pepper" looks so nice is that you fill the frame of an 8X10 and then contact print it and you got WOW.well, it says a 252mm image circle at infinity (and ƒ22), so the image circle should double at 1:1 since its is double the distance from the film. Now 1:1 doesn't feel very macro on 8x10 like it does on 35mm, but anything larger is going to get a larger image circle.
(am I right? I figuring the "math" by supposition, not with a formula and a calculator.)
The Apo-Sironar-N is not the same als the Apo-Sironar-S. Here is a picture for comparison. Left, Apo-Sironar-S 1:5.6 180mm. Middle Apo-Rodagon 1:4.8 180mm = Right, Sinaron digital 1:4.8 180mm. ( I don’t have a Apo-Sironar-N 180mm )
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Nobody has yet mentioned the 180mm f/5.6 Apo Macro Sironar. It’s not the most common or least expensive lens, but it does exactly what the OP wants. It requires 67mm filters. I use mine when doing macro work at home, but in the field I carry a 180mm Fujinon-A.
I'm not very focused on maximum sharpness. There is objectively no difference to be found between the Apo-Rodagon and the Sinaron digital. They both have a 58mm threaded mount. The cells do not fit in a copal shutter.
Thanks Besk. Is it(Sk apo symmar mc) newer design than apo sironar s that Gary have?
I wish there was some list of this ~180mm lens that could sort the lenses in descending order from best ones at the top, the top one being the best in all categories IQ wise, because so many versions were from all the big 4 brands, and sill are but with the digital and only 2 brands now left.
Just for comparison of prices, each next gen. is 2-3 times more $ than previous one, even they are ~ 20 years old.
RODENSTOCK 180MM SIRONAR-N F5.6 - 250$
Rodenstock Apo Sironar N 180mm f/5.6 - 700$
Rodenstock Apo-Sironar-S 180mm - 1800$
SK apo symmar 180 - ~450$
Funinon CM 180mm W - 500$
Fuji Fujinon W S 180mm f/5.6 - 150$
and finally Pentax 67 165mm f/2.8 though not copal.
The Fujinon A 180mm f9 was/is slightly more expensive, but to me it's worth it. It was one of my better large format lens purchases for sure. It works very nicely with my Chamonix 4X5 camera. The lens is very small and light, which makes my Chamonix 4X5 very happy. While the Chamonix is a great, well built camera it doesn't like heavy glass hung on its front end.While the Fujinon A 180mm f9 is a super lens -- I have one -- it's expensive, so it depends on your wallet. I also have a Fujinon NW 180mm f5.6 -- which I use for most photos because of its brighter aperture. I use the A 180mm for close-up work (and backpacking -- because it's so small and light).
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