110/16mm Camera Image Quality

[WD4AON]

Wow Huss, that came out really nice. I wish Lomography wouldn't burn that border onto each frame of their film, you can see how you had more image than that border allowed.

Best,
-Tim

PS: Do you process your own color film Huss, or do you send it out. And if you send it out, who did you send the 110 film to, to have it processed?

Jimmyjoe, You can use any emulsion and avoid that limiting 'frame' you want if you reload your 110 cassettes. Only takes a few minutes and saves money as well. The
https://www.facebook.com/groups/110filmphotography
facebook page is a useful reference, as well as the 'SubClub.org' and 'main@submini-l.groups..io' and 'submini.com'. --Terry

 

[WD4AON]

Oh sure, I'd love to get me one if they didn't cost an arm and a leg.

xya, I have a Viscawide with extra cartridges that I haven't been using. Contact me offline with an offer. Terry Martin, wd4aon@arrl.net

 

[Huss]

Try the E110. Basically the same camera except the E110 has a kind of aperture priority.

A really basic version of the A110 that does not expose correctly with modern batteries.

 

[Huss]

 

[Sirius Glass]

xya, I have a Viscawide with extra cartridges that I haven't been using. Contact me offline with an offer. Terry Martin, wd4aon@arrl.net

The ULS search states that your license has been cancelled. Is that correct?

 

[Huss]

Rollei A110, Lomo Tiger

 

[Huss]

Rollei A110, Lomo Tiger

 

[ic-racer]

Just spent an hour catching up on this thread. Lots of great posts! This thread is more active than many of the more common film format threads; great work!

 

[Cholentpot]

xya, I have a Viscawide with extra cartridges that I haven't been using. Contact me offline with an offer. Terry Martin, wd4aon@arrl.net

Sent.

Just spent an hour catching up on this thread. Lots of great posts! This thread is more active than many of the more common film format threads; great work!

We're having fun in here. No-one is shooting 110/16mm for 'serious' work.

 

[ic-racer]

No-one is shooting 110/16mm for 'serious' work.

?
I am, and I suspect others too, based on the quality of work presented. Personally I don't even consider 16mm a 'Lo Fi' format.
The last work I had in an invited show was Minox.

 

[Cholentpot]

?
I am, and I suspect others too, based on the quality of work presented. Personally I don't even consider 16mm a 'Lo Fi' format.
The last work I had in an invited show was Minox.

I stand corrected.

Good on you for promoting this wonderful format. I just shot most of a roll of slit 250D in an Auto 110 because of the rare sunny and warm day we're having.

Out of curiosity, what would you consider a lo-fi format?

 

[ciniframe]

I stand corrected.

Good on you for promoting this wonderful format. I just shot most of a roll of slit 250D in an Auto 110 because of the rare sunny and warm day we're having.

Out of curiosity, what would you consider a lo-fi format?

Interesting question I’d like to chime in on. Lo-fi is more a style than format it would seem. Everything from 6x9 box cameras to 8x10 pinhole to ‘hit’ style cameras can be lo-fi. I’ve made a bunch of home made cameras that use 4x5 film holders and found lenses (not all of which cover 4x5, it’s a ‘cut and try’ sort of thing) and use photo paper in them as negatives. They are pretty much all lo-fi as regards results.
So….lo-fi? Could be more the final image results than the format.

 

[Cholentpot]

Interesting question I’d like to chime in on. Lo-fi is more a style than format it would seem. Everything from 6x9 box cameras to 8x10 pinhole to ‘hit’ style cameras can be lo-fi. I’ve made a bunch of home made cameras that use 4x5 film holders and found lenses (not all of which cover 4x5, it’s a ‘cut and try’ sort of thing) and use photo paper in them as negatives. They are pretty much all lo-fi as regards results.
So….lo-fi? Could be more the final image results than the format.

Interesting take.

Crayons are considered less the ideal for artistic work, until they're not. I guess you can say the same for any format. However, small negative still do lead to lower fidelity which I guess is lo-fi.

 

[Donald Qualls]

what would you consider a lo-fi format?

Lo-fi is more about the camera than the film format, especially with modern films like T-Max 100 (medium speed, grain comparable to old Panatomic or Tech Pan) or XP-2 Super (latitude to burn, virtually grainless at or below EI 400).

i've got lo-fi cameras up to 6x9 cm, defined by little or no exposure control, little or no focus control, and meniscus lens (prone to field curvature, especially if convex to the world). The 16 mm ones I've used most and most recently are surely not lo-fi if the photographer does his/her part. Kiev 30 or 303, Minolta 16 MGs and QT, Pocket Instamatic 60 (auto exposure, but has a rangefinder!).

 

[Cholentpot]

Lo-fi is more about the camera than the film format, especially with modern films like T-Max 100 (medium speed, grain comparable to old Panatomic or Tech Pan) or XP-2 Super (latitude to burn, virtually grainless at or below EI 400).

i've got lo-fi cameras up to 6x9 cm, defined by little or no exposure control, little or no focus control, and meniscus lens (prone to field curvature, especially if convex to the world). The 16 mm ones I've used most and most recently are surely not lo-fi if the photographer does his/her part. Kiev 30 or 303, Minolta 16 MGs and QT, Pocket Instamatic 60 (auto exposure, but has a rangefinder!).

Smaller the negative the more effort on part of photographer to make the shot. The Insta 60 is very capable. Battery is the issue.

 

[Donald Qualls]

The Insta 60 is very capable. Battery is the issue.

I bought a 3D printed one with four 357 alkaline inside. There are reloadable shells and .stl files to print your own as well.

 

[Cholentpot]

I bought a 3D printed one with four 357 alkaline inside. There are reloadable shells and .stl files to print your own as well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/275070268741?hash=item400b773545:g:dMAAAOSwz5JgM8y8 This?

 

[Donald Qualls]

I don't know that that's the exact one I have, but it's like that. Remove the four tiny screws to replace the cells, and the Pocket 60 doesn't care if they're zinc-air, alkaline, or silver oxide -- making the latter the most cost effective due to their long life in service.

 

[Cholentpot]

Vision3 500T, Pentax Auto 110

Local hardware store.

 

[ic-racer]

I stand corrected.

Good on you for promoting this wonderful format. I just shot most of a roll of slit 250D in an Auto 110 because of the rare sunny and warm day we're having.

Out of curiosity, what would you consider a lo-fi format?

Just going back to the 70s I equate that Lo-fi term with Diana and other plastic lens cameras. Most 16mm and the nicer 110 cameras have excellent lenses. I do agree the results with these cameras can be very Lo-fi when not using microfilm.

Somebody here can be the HCB of Minox or 16mm/110 . Im actually serious I can't name a photographer with Minox images in a museum collection off hand.

 

[Huss]

Rollei A110, Lomo Tiger

 

[Cholentpot]

Kiev30, Tri-X, HC-110

 

[Cholentpot]

Minolta 16 II with 0 filter. Vision3 250D. Gotta say, the lens on this camera is far better then the Kiev although the negatives are smaller.

(check out the gas prices a month or so ago)

 

[Cholentpot]

And for the final, the undisputed winner of my collection.

Pentax Auto 110, 250D. Decent film in the camera and the results are quite good.

 

[perkeleellinen]

I'm getting lots of red 'X's on those last two posts.