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Both papers were listed in Tim Rudman's article on alternativephotography (I believe that's right), and I tried pulling both well before the blacks appeared, just all warm creamy tones, but got the same results. So I suspect it's probably the rapid fixer. Even without a single dot of black...

That makes so much sense. I really should have tried that first!

I triple checked to be sure and didn't recall seeing anything about rapid fixer. But I don't have any of them in front of me. I believe they all just said to use what you normally lose. That would certainly make sense, if over-fixing causes loss of hilights and extra contrast, then if...

I've been using Cachet lith and Ilford Warmtone papers with Maco developer. Everything is there up until fixing: nice creamy tones, delicate hilights, you name it. It all goes downhill quite rapidly in the fixer.

I have been doing some lith printing lately and enjoy the effect quite a lot when it works. I've read several books dealing with the subject, including Tim Rudman's. They all claim that upon fixing the print will lose a little from the hilights and contrast will increase a bit. My experiences...