If there a difference here between rating your film 2/3 slower than box speed and 2/3 stop?
No, because if it works for you, that is all that matters.I always shoot at box speed and have never used the zone system.
Am I a philistine?
I always shoot at box speed and have never used the zone system.
Am I a philistine?
Tonight I will mix a fresh liter of D76 from scratch and let it age overnight for testing tomorrow.
Plan on starting at Ilford recommended time/temp for the first sheet and then decrease development time for the next two sheets by 1 minute each.
Let's see. 400 ISO minus 2/3-stop is E.I. 250. 400 x .67 (2/3) is 268, close here. Now let's take ISO 100 minus 2/3 stop = E.I. 64. 2/3 of 100 is 66, also close. ISO 800 -2/3 stop = 500. 2/3 of 800 is 533, also close.I am a little confused now. Is this not the same thing? If I have a 400 speed film then I just rate it at 250 which is two x one thirds slower than box speed
If there a difference here between rating your film 2/3 slower than box speed and 2/3 stop?
Thanks
pentaxuser
Nope. I wouldn't use the Zone System for shooting roll film in a camera with a built-in meter. I might even use box speed too, if that gave good results.I always shoot at box speed and have never used the zone system.
Am I a philistine?
Let's see. 400 ISO minus 2/3-stop is E.I. 250. 400 x .67 (2/3) is 268, close here. Now let's take ISO 100 minus 2/3 stop = E.I. 64. 2/3 of 100 is 66, also close. ISO 800 -2/3 stop = 500. 2/3 of 800 is 533, also close.
So, I guess it is roughly the same thing, I just never thought of figuring it that way, but rather rating the film slower by counting down ISO numbers.
Best,
Doremus
I always shoot at box speed and have never used the zone system.
Am I a philistine?
Why not spread the times around probably the outer edges of your expected developing time like 5, 7, 11, 17 minutes (like f/stop timing, but for development times)
Zone system!
Start with a film camera, the more expensive the better but it must be able to take single shots or have a interchangeable back.
Choose a subject to photograph , anything, any time of the day, interesting or not.
Take your photo and add other exposures at plus one stop of exposure then two stops of exposure .
Reverse the sequence and make exposures at less one stop and two stops etc.
Now it becomes interesting.
Develop your film for more time than the multimillion $$$ manufacturer recommends or if there is an R in the month reduce the developing time!
When printing the negatives use multigrade paper and a developer whose name as not yet been accepted by the Oxford dictionary.
The plot thickens.
Whilst exposing your negatives to a paper that is preferably unobtainable in most regions that have film cameras be sure to use the spit grade exposure technique whilst waving around deformed cardboard cutouts and sticks that look like lollipops.
We are not done yet.
When fully developed , to fix the image re fix it in case you error ed with the first fix!
Now the print has to be dried.
Do not hang the print to dry , use a space consuming screen dryer so that your prints can rest overnight until dry.
Once the print is dry then it has to be mounted for greater effect.
Make sure your mount board is of archival quality that is a piece of cardboard that costs more than the cheep stuff.
When all is done then please display your print to friends and family.
Just hope they don't say..
What is it?
@#%, it's out of focus!
Enjoy your photography.
keep safe.
TB
Rob's experience is what made his request so interesting for me. I'd love to find out why he is asking this question now.
Talking with photographers about how they came to be where they are in their photographic journey is something I really enjoy.
Let's see. 400 ISO minus 2/3-stop is E.I. 250. 400 x .67 (2/3) is 268, close here. Now let's take ISO 100 minus 2/3 stop = E.I. 64. 2/3 of 100 is 66, also close. ISO 800 -2/3 stop = 500. 2/3 of 800 is 533, also close.
So, I guess it is roughly the same thing, I just never thought of figuring it that way, but rather rating the film slower by counting down ISO numbers.
Best,
Doremus
Hard stops make it easier to change settings without moving around and looking at the lens.
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