Can I also feel free to NOT call myself an artist?
Can I also feel free to NOT call myself an artist?The only thing keeping a knowledgeable (in the ways of plumbing) person from calling themselves a plumber are legal restrictions imposed by the trade. No such legal restrictions exist for most artistic trades. Again, if you create art and as you've said, others would qualify your work as art, then feel free to call yourself an artist.
Of course you can. At no point are you forced to call yourself an artist. I was just pointing out it wasn't the height of hubris to call yourself an artist, should you want to.Can I also feel free to NOT call myself an artist?
Of course.Can I also feel free to NOT call myself an artist?
Photographer is good too though. Just as good as artist. I agree though, it's always nice when someone else appreciates your work.It's more impressive when someone else call you an artist. Otherwise you're still a photographer.
I packed mules for ten seasons (May thru Oct) for the US Forest Service. I had my share of wreaks, which in packers' lore means I am a mule packer. But I do not call myself a mule packer, I just packed mules. I just feel that I never gained a sufficient skill and experience level -- in relation to those who are 'real' packers -- to justify it. It was just a job (that I loved) and I do not think I have been on a horse, nor want to be on one, in the over 25 years since I last packed a mule.I'm a well driller's son and do my own plumbing but I don't call myself a plumber either.
So you packed mules for 10 years and still don't think you're good enough at it to call yourself a mule packer? That's like a 1/4-1/3 of the average persons entire working years. At what point do you think you would be good enough? I've never packed a mule- no idea what's involved, but I would think after a few years you'd have learned the ropes.I packed mules for ten seasons (May thru Oct) for the US Forest Service. I had my share of wreaks, which in packers' lore means I am a mule packer. But I do not call myself a mule packer, I just packed mules. I just feel that I never gained a sufficient skill and experience level -- in relation to those who are 'real' packers -- to justify it. It was just a job (that I loved) and I do not think I have been on a horse, nor want to be on one, in the over 25 years since I last packed a mule.
I packed mules for ten seasons (May thru Oct) for the US Forest Service. I had my share of wreaks, which in packers' lore means I am a mule packer. But I do not call myself a mule packer, I just packed mules. I just feel that I never gained a sufficient skill and experience level -- in relation to those who are 'real' packers -- to justify it. It was just a job (that I loved) and I do not think I have been on a horse, nor want to be on one, in the over 25 years since I last packed a mule.
Actually -- pretty silly of me, I suppose. If someone called me a packer, I would not argue about it.
If someone with much less experience than I wants to call themselves a packer, that is fine with me, too (as long as they have had a wreak or two -- a traditional right-of-passage). So if someone wants to not call themselves an artist, that's cool with me...as long as they do not try to extend their personal definition of an artist to others and deny or critize someone else who wants to call themselves an artist.
I have to agree with you here. Most professional artists work very hard for very little pay and get very little respect. They do it because they love doing it. It's their passion in life. For 99% of artists, there's no fancy social club gatherings, magazine interviews, assistants working in their shadows, world traveling for gallery openings, and legions of adoring fans. There's just the artist, his/her tools, and a passion to create. I mean think about it. Very few artists achieve much in the way of fame, wealth, and social status during their lifetime. Recoiling at the idea of someone willing to work so hard for so little reward is what's wrong with our society. We need more people willing to roll up their sleeves, focus intently on a something, all for little to no outside reward (though great personal reward), and less people passively going through the mindless motions of a rehearsed technique and demanding a fat, steady paycheck. This world needs artists. Now more than ever.In my mind, making a big deal about not calling yourself an artist is more an of affectation than calling yourself an artist.
Well, packing them into those dang packing crates for shipping is the hard part.So you packed mules for 10 years and still don't think you're good enough at it to call yourself a mule packer? That's like a 1/4-1/3 of the average persons entire working years. At what point do you think you would be good enough? I've never packed a mule- no idea what's involved, but I would think after a few years you'd have learned the ropes.
Hear, here! Whatever "art" is, it is rarely a function of luck. The challenge is that one not let tech wag the dog but serve the purpose of vision. That requires, however, a whole lot of study, rehearsal, and application so that tech becomes second nature.IMO technical competence is somehow related. If a photographer insists that s/he is an artist does that suggest s/he lacks important technical skills? Does it suggest s/he makes photos that don't seem significant to "better" photographers? Me, I think the question is ridiculous.
Do any of these questions matter? From an article at Lomography on the same blog:
1. Do you think about why some photos stay in the mind?
2. Are you willing to redefine your world?
3. Are you aware of visual relationships, including minute details?
4. Do you make photos that cannot be repeated?
5. Do you look within yourself for the benefit of your photography?
6. Do you push beyond the limits and confines of the mind?
7. Are you willing to face your fears?
Regards, Art
IDKA list that was obviously put together by someone who is not an artist.
i don't think any of what they do is a gimmick ..Yea, and it is from Lomography who markets gimicky film for instant artists.
We disagree. How about the rainbow re-working films and such? Pre-packaged creativity ."Carefully crafted by our color contortionist chemical engineers" Not a gimmick? On the contrary, it is gimmick that exploits a market; you can learn that at Harvard, too.
When in doubt if you are an artist, ask your mother.Photographer is good too though. Just as good as artist. I agree though, it's always nice when someone else appreciates your work.
Yep, if they are not used and appreciated, one gets full of shit........Being an artist is kind of like being an asshole,...
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