Yashica Half 17 Rapid, sticky shutter complete teardown and rebuild

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Alexo

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Hi there ! Here's a fix I just completed on a Yashica Half 17 Rapid

Background

I recently bought an old lot of cameras and I've been falling in love with the Half 17 Rapid for some reason. The lens seems better than the minister and it's got so many nice features for a small package. I wasn't familiar with the half frames so I decided to bring it back to life. Searched around, and seems the sticky shutter is quite common and during this rebuild you will understand why. I love that almost everything in this camera is mechanic with linear speed/aperture between 30 and 800 and 1.7 and 16!

I didn't take pictures of the teardown but I took pictures from the rebuild, so I guess in reverse that would be the proper teardown sequence.
Also it's my very first camera teardown and repair so pls. bear with me and the layman's terms.


The mechanism as I found it

At this point I had removed the top rings of the lens, and de-soldered the red and black wires of the photocell.
Immediately you can tell Japanese ingenuity and simplicity. Basically this is mostly the camera, self-contained in the lens!

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These are the main components from the front. These are probably not the technical terms, feel free to correct my layman's language:

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Why the shutter was stuck

The shutter is sandwiched in between two plates. The front plate holds the mechanisms shown above which are basically most of the trigger, timings and flash sync. The back plate holds the iris control/limiter or f-stop, and the shutter blades are sandwiched in between. By turning the iris control (not seen here but you will see in the rebuild pics), the shutter is forced to stop opening at a given setting. Maybe all early cameras worked this way and it's the origin of the term f-stop - please comment if you know more.

The blades rest on a brass plate, whilst the top plate is some kind of tin alloy, which seems to be coated with something that degraded over time, OR by some liquid used to try to un-stick the shutter. It may also be leftovers of some light lubricant coating, who knows. Comments welcome.

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The Fix

I polished the brass and the allow plates with fine-grain car-paint rubbing compound used to remove light scratches. I figured it would leave a smoother finish than an aggressive metal polish compound like Brasso, etc. After that I washed both plates with dish soap and warm running water to make sure to remove all the rubbing compound that will find it's way everywhere, especially the iris control mechanism which I did not remove for this. Then I blow-dried both plates to make sure no water was left anywhere.

After that, I carefully cleaned every surface and the shutter blades with lighter fluid and a lens microfibre cloth. I also cut the deformed light seal and mended with some red putty used for crafts, for exterior use, which is very stable at wide temperature differences. It's the type of white putty you would use to stick paper or photo to a wall and then remove without damage, but for exterior use which is red.


The rebuild

Ok, so now I will post the rebuild steps, and some comments along the way...


Step 1: Shutter Blade Assembly

1a: Attach Shutter Lever and Spring

You need to re-attach the shutter lever in order to re-assemble the shutter blades.

NOTE: I made a mistake here which I later corrected. Note that the spring has a long leg and a shorter leg. The longer leg is the one that should lean agains the lens mount.

WARNING: Also, note that the black steel screws are VERY fragile, only tighten 1/16 of a turn after it stops! I actually broke this one and another black one which you will see a non-critical part I had to glue with resin. In this case I was lucky and I was able to remove the stub. You have been warned.

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1b: Shutter Leaf Assembly Order

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1c: Completed Shutter - Ready to Close

Here is the shutter assembly ready to be closed. Note the polished surfaces, the repaired and repositioned light seal, and most especially the position of the flash wire.

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This is the back side showing the iris control / f-stop and clicker. Light coating of silicon grease on the clicker.

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Step 2: Main Mechanism Reassembly

2a: Attach First Level Parts


Re-attach the first level parts as shown below. Namely: bulb lock ("B" pos), trigger reset arms and the flash contact. Take special care to place the nylon isolators in the flash contact shoe.

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2b: Attach Rest of the Parts

This step is pretty straight forward. Install the flash sync arm first. Then the winding and trigger arm and the flash stop. Place the flywheel last and make sure you align the teeth in the position shown below. You will notice the black screw hitting the brass arm as shown. You will also note a small marker mark I made to remember where the flywheel is tangent to the lens mount. It's not as hard as it sounds as it can only go in this position or you will notice right away. One thing to note is the exact position of every spring, including the long and short arms of each one. The only spring that requires more than a few degrees of winding is the trigger arm spring (lower left) which you will need to wind about 270 degrees to make it fit.


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Step 3: Reassemble the Lens

3a: Attach Spring to Self Timer Trigger Assembly


The spring goes in a very specific way, pls. take note of the exact position:

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3b: Position the Trigger and Self Timer Assembly and Re-Attach Mechanism to Lens

Continued on a reply because of the 15 image limit....
 
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Continued from previous post....

3b: Position the Trigger and Self Timer Assembly and Re-Attach Mechanism to Lens


Here is the sequence of assembly:

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3c: Reassemble Lens Rings and Photocell

Here is the sequence of assembly. Pay special attention where the wires flow through!

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3d: Test Flash Fire Point

The flash should fire right after the shutter opens completely. Place the iris control to the B position (on the back you will see it clearly). Then with the help of a circuit tester, check to see that the flash makes contact at the end of the flywheel turn (when the shutter is completely open and not before, nor after). Take note of the flywheel position where I set mine to fire in the second picture below.
If it doesn't fire in this position, you will need to bend the flash contact arm very carefully until get it exactly at this point. I would recommend removing the rings for this because the flash contact is very delicate.

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Step 4: Finish the Assembly

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Step 4: Finish the Assembly

Continued from previous post...


4a: Photocell and Levers on the Back

Pull the wires gently from the back and place the photocell in its place. Do not close the lens yet, so you can leave a little slack in the wires and be able to do a quick inspection later by just disassembling the front...

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At this point the whole lens assembly is ready to marry the body.


4b: Marry the Lens Assembly to the Body

The lens assembly should fit right in with almost zero effort. If not, carefully double check and don't force anything. There is a lever on the bottom which may get in the way, look the sequence below:

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4c: Route the Wires and Solder Them in Place

Pay special attention on the routing of the wires so they don't get caught with the moving parts:

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4d: Set and Adjust the Viewfinder Focus Helper

You may have had to remove the small spring that holds the lever for the red focus helper indicator. It can also be adjusted by gently moving the indicator with a screw driver or micro tweezer.

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4e: Glue The Faux Leather and Replace the Self Timer Lever

There's a few steps here that I forgot to photograph, but basically:

1. Glue the faux leather with a generic contact cement.
2. Attach the auto time lever.
3. Solder the flash wire to the X-sync connector (which is on the top cover).
4. Screw the covers back.

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-- THE END

When I get some time, I will follow up with a couple more threads on loading films and actual photographs.

Enjoy !!
 
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Alexo

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LOL, not at all, but thank you ! It's the first time I do any serious work on a camera, but I have worked in electro-mechanics, electronics and high tech in general for many years. I got back into photography recently to teach my kids this old forgotten art.

In the next thread I show how I 3D printed the Rapid cassettes to be able to load the film and shoot some actual pictures with the Half 17.

Stay tuned !! Here's the teaser:

1703178714999.png
 

Andreas Thaler

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LOL, not at all, but thank you ! It's the first time I do any serious work on a camera, but I have worked in electro-mechanics, electronics and high tech in general for many years. I got back into photography recently to teach my kids this old forgotten art.

In the next thread I show how I 3D printed the Rapid cassettes to be able to load the film and shoot some actual pictures with the Half 17.

Stay tuned !! Here's the teaser:

View attachment 357501

Great, I hope for further reports and explanations, especially on electronics!

And you won't find a well-used Fluke multimeter in every household! 🙃
 
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Hi there ! Here's a fix I just completed on a Yashica Half 17 Rapid

Background

I recently bought an old lot of cameras and I've been falling in love with the Half 17 Rapid for some reason. The lens seems better than the minister and it's got so many nice features for a small package. I wasn't familiar with the half frames so I decided to bring it back to life. Searched around, and seems the sticky shutter is quite common and during this rebuild you will understand why. I love that almost everything in this camera is mechanic with linear speed/aperture between 30 and 800 and 1.7 and 16!

I didn't take pictures of the teardown but I took pictures from the rebuild, so I guess in reverse that would be the proper teardown sequence.
Also it's my very first camera teardown and repair so pls. bear with me and the layman's terms.


The mechanism as I found it

At this point I had removed the top rings of the lens, and de-soldered the red and black wires of the photocell.
Immediately you can tell Japanese ingenuity and simplicity. Basically this is mostly the camera, self-contained in the lens!

View attachment 357443

These are the main components from the front. These are probably not the technical terms, feel free to correct my layman's language:

View attachment 357444

Why the shutter was stuck

The shutter is sandwiched in between two plates. The front plate holds the mechanisms shown above which are basically most of the trigger, timings and flash sync. The back plate holds the iris control/limiter or f-stop, and the shutter blades are sandwiched in between. By turning the iris control (not seen here but you will see in the rebuild pics), the shutter is forced to stop opening at a given setting. Maybe all early cameras worked this way and it's the origin of the term f-stop - please comment if you know more.

The blades rest on a brass plate, whilst the top plate is some kind of tin alloy, which seems to be coated with something that degraded over time, OR by some liquid used to try to un-stick the shutter. It may also be leftovers of some light lubricant coating, who knows. Comments welcome.

View attachment 357445


The Fix

I polished the brass and the allow plates with fine-grain car-paint rubbing compound used to remove light scratches. I figured it would leave a smoother finish than an aggressive metal polish compound like Brasso, etc. After that I washed both plates with dish soap and warm running water to make sure to remove all the rubbing compound that will find it's way everywhere, especially the iris control mechanism which I did not remove for this. Then I blow-dried both plates to make sure no water was left anywhere.

After that, I carefully cleaned every surface and the shutter blades with lighter fluid and a lens microfibre cloth. I also cut the deformed light seal and mended with some red putty used for crafts, for exterior use, which is very stable at wide temperature differences. It's the type of white putty you would use to stick paper or photo to a wall and then remove without damage, but for exterior use which is red.


The rebuild

Ok, so now I will post the rebuild steps, and some comments along the way...


Step 1: Shutter Blade Assembly

1a: Attach Shutter Lever and Spring

You need to re-attach the shutter lever in order to re-assemble the shutter blades.

NOTE: I made a mistake here which I later corrected. Note that the spring has a long leg and a shorter leg. The longer leg is the one that should lean agains the lens mount.

WARNING: Also, note that the black steel screws are VERY fragile, only tighten 1/16 of a turn after it stops! I actually broke this one and another black one which you will see a non-critical part I had to glue with resin. In this case I was lucky and I was able to remove the stub. You have been warned.

View attachment 357446

1b: Shutter Leaf Assembly Order

View attachment 357447 View attachment 357448 View attachment 357449 View attachment 357450


1c: Completed Shutter - Ready to Close

Here is the shutter assembly ready to be closed. Note the polished surfaces, the repaired and repositioned light seal, and most especially the position of the flash wire.

View attachment 357452

This is the back side showing the iris control / f-stop and clicker. Light coating of silicon grease on the clicker.

View attachment 357455

Step 2: Main Mechanism Reassembly

2a: Attach First Level Parts


Re-attach the first level parts as shown below. Namely: bulb lock ("B" pos), trigger reset arms and the flash contact. Take special care to place the nylon isolators in the flash contact shoe.

View attachment 357456


2b: Attach Rest of the Parts

This step is pretty straight forward. Install the flash sync arm first. Then the winding and trigger arm and the flash stop. Place the flywheel last and make sure you align the teeth in the position shown below. You will notice the black screw hitting the brass arm as shown. You will also note a small marker mark I made to remember where the flywheel is tangent to the lens mount. It's not as hard as it sounds as it can only go in this position or you will notice right away. One thing to note is the exact position of every spring, including the long and short arms of each one. The only spring that requires more than a few degrees of winding is the trigger arm spring (lower left) which you will need to wind about 270 degrees to make it fit.


View attachment 357457

Step 3: Reassemble the Lens

3a: Attach Spring to Self Timer Trigger Assembly


The spring goes in a very specific way, pls. take note of the exact position:

View attachment 357459 View attachment 357460 View attachment 357461


3b: Position the Trigger and Self Timer Assembly and Re-Attach Mechanism to Lens

Continued on a reply because of the 15 image limit....
 
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I am just starting out in camera repair, with 1957 Kodak Retina Reflex camera models.
I found a way of cleaning metal to perfectly clean, although lear shutters have a coating on them, I havent used it on leaf shutters yet.

The Acetone was bought by the gallon at walmart for 11.00. I evaporate it at 133 degrees F.
I put it in a induction pan on a induction grill/range....and put the parts in a wire screen sieve....and suspend it at 140 F...steaming the parts for 1 min. Then gently wipe off all residue with cotton swabs.

Don't steam plastic, rubber of leatherette, it will melt it...real quick....other wise no offending smells ...just use metal funnel and glass for handling acetone...
 

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@Alexo : You are careful and thoughtful, two traits that will serve you well when repairing cameras. In your photos, you are not making the usual beginner mistakes of spraying WD-40, munging screwheads and whatnot. And I noticed your Fluke. 🙂

@Tower Photo Art : I hope you are steaming Acetone in your yard or driveway, well away from anything flammable. Acetone is very flammable. Anyway, Retina Reflex cameras are difficult to repair due to their over-complexity, so I suggest learning camera repair with cheaper and simpler cameras, such as a Petri rangefinder or a Kodak Pony. But if you can deal with the complexity of the Retina Reflex, more power to you! Please stay around in this forum. You'll fit in, and we need more up-and-coming experts in camera repair.

Mark
 
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Alexo

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I am just starting out in camera repair, with 1957 Kodak Retina Reflex camera models.
I found a way of cleaning metal to perfectly clean, although lear shutters have a coating on them, I havent used it on leaf shutters yet.

The Acetone was bought by the gallon at walmart for 11.00. I evaporate it at 133 degrees F.
I put it in a induction pan on a induction grill/range....and put the parts in a wire screen sieve....and suspend it at 140 F...steaming the parts for 1 min. Then gently wipe off all residue with cotton swabs.

Don't steam plastic, rubber of leatherette, it will melt it...real quick....other wise no offending smells ...just use metal funnel and glass for handling acetone...

This is quite common in 3D printing for beautifying ABS parts. The vapours are not very healthy though so hopefully your range ventilation goes to the outside and not recycle inside the home ;-)
 
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@Alexo : You are careful and thoughtful, two traits that will serve you well when repairing cameras. In your photos, you are not making the usual beginner mistakes of spraying WD-40, munging screwheads and whatnot. And I noticed your Fluke. 🙂

@Tower Photo Art : I hope you are steaming Acetone in your yard or driveway, well away from anything flammable. Acetone is very flammable. Anyway, Retina Reflex cameras are difficult to repair due to their over-complexity, so I suggest learning camera repair with cheaper and simpler cameras, such as a Petri rangefinder or a Kodak Pony. But if you can deal with the complexity of the Retina Reflex, more power to you! Please stay around in this forum. You'll fit in, and we need more up-and-coming experts in camera repair.

Mark

Thank you for the warm welcome and inspiring words, Mark.

Not sure if it's reaching a certain age, or what, but more and more I am coming back to basic things, and I am fascinated by these mechanical and electro-mechanical systems. I honestly can't believe the simplicity and cleverness of this Yashica mechanical beauty from the early 60s that can do 30-800 and 1.7 - 16f linearly, and almost purely mechanical ! Moreover, has selectable flash aperture, bulb mode and a self timer! And most incredibly, most of the camera lives in the actual lens body !

Anyway, hope to keep contributing to this art.

All the best and Merry Christmas !

--
Alex
 
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@Alexo : You are careful and thoughtful, two traits that will serve you well when repairing cameras. In your photos, you are not making the usual beginner mistakes of spraying WD-40, munging screwheads and whatnot. And I noticed your Fluke. 🙂

@Tower Photo Art : I hope you are steaming Acetone in your yard or driveway, well away from anything flammable. Acetone is very flammable. Anyway, Retina Reflex cameras are difficult to repair due to their over-complexity, so I suggest learning camera repair with cheaper and simpler cameras, such as a Petri rangefinder or a Kodak Pony. But if you can deal with the complexity of the Retina Reflex, more power to you! Please stay around in this forum. You'll fit in, and we need more up-and-coming experts in camera repair.

Mark

Hi Mark, nice to meet you here. I believe in Retina Reflex and Reflex S models as practical, and demands time and organization to accomplish all maintenance. I agree about the plight of camera technicians, thats why my specialty is 2 camera models and associated lens shutters...
 
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LOL, not at all, but thank you ! It's the first time I do any serious work on a camera, but I have worked in electro-mechanics, electronics and high tech in general for many years. I got back into photography recently to teach my kids this old forgotten art.

In the next thread I show how I 3D printed the Rapid cassettes to be able to load the film and shoot some actual pictures with the Half 17.

Stay tuned !! Here's the teaser:

View attachment 357501

Interesting...is that cassette to cassette?
 

mattxfoto

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A question on the operation rather than the repair. I understand the camera operates in Auto mode selecting both the aperture and shutter speed. If an aperture is selected on the lens does the meter select an appropriate shutter speed or does it always default to a fixed 1/30s as the manual implies under the flash use section?
 
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Alexo

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I don't think any Half-Rapids have the Auto setting. Only the Half 17s E (regular 35mm, and E for electronic) that have the ASA setting wheel on the top.
I'm only messing around with the purely mechanical Half17 Rapids that don't have the E.
You can find the manuals on-line here, but make sure to look for the E which has Auto.
They also call this model "Deluxe": https://cameramanuals.org/yashica_pdf/yashica_17_half_deluxe.pdf
 
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