Will Tetenal E6 kits ever be available again? If so, when?
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What I heard is tetenal is moving its factory which makes them stop making chemistry right now
And I'm very agree to Bellini E6 too.I don't know their price so can't see if it's reasonable but I'm very admiring they use fuji CR-56 control strips and they have very good word-of-mouth
And PE once said that Fuji e6 passed the test of Kodak (I believe the two are interchangeable)
Personally, I also deeply feel this when developing the Fuji reversal film with Kodak’s patented (expired protection period) potion, but the FD of Fuji’s film will take 2 to 30 seconds longer.
I think if their chemical passed Fujis' control strips should pass kodak's too(non available)
Just to give feedback on the Bellini 7-bath kit, I processed three 120 films (2 x Provia 100f, 1 x Velvia 100) this last weekend, and all turned out very well. I used 500ml of working solution (half the kit) and a Paterson tank. The remaining stock solutions should last 5 weeks according to Bellini (air expelled using Protectan).
Given the choice, I'd prefer the Tetenal kit (4 baths is easier to handle) but the Bellini kit is straightforward, it just needs a little more concentration dealing with the 7 bottles (at least for me).
Given the choice, I'd prefer the Tetenal kit (4 baths is easier to handle) but the Bellini kit is straightforward, it just needs a little more concentration dealing with the 7 bottles (at least for me).
I got this response from Tetenal 1847 about the E6 kits:
"Thank you for your interest in our products.
We are still working on establishing our production processes which started in May and will take some more time. Maybe it will be available in late autumn.
Thank you for your patience."
"Thank you for your interest in our products.
We are still working on establishing our production processes which started in May and will take some more time. Maybe it will be available in late autumn.
Thank you for your patience."
Tetenal made also a bunch of professional color chemistry in "minilab" quantities. I hope these will be available soon. Colortec series of chemistry are not of particular interest for me. All Colortec kits for film are simplified kits with blix, which is always a compromise. RA´4 kits were extremely expensive compared to minilab chemistry. Over 100€ for 5 liters compared to less than 300 € for 60-80 L working solution is just too expensive per print.
I have found that some of the Kodak B&W developers, such as HC-110 are reappearing in the webstores of big European retailers. These were made by Tetenal. I don´t know the source or these products though.
I've just used the 1ltr Bellini kit too mixing 500ml solutions to fit my Jobo tanks, developing 6 sheets of 4x5 Ektachrome. The only reason I had never tried this kit before, since it became available in UK, is the heating of the extra bottles using a Jobo CPE. Anyway I use an insulated cooler box to hold rinse water so put the bleach and fix bottles in there. Transparencies came out great. I shall try to reuse each mix as I did using the Tetenal chems, that is 3 times, I've got another 11 sheets remaining.
The one thing I noticed was that the overall time was not much longer than using the Tetenal 3 bath kit, as there are fewer wash stages; the reversal and pre-bleach steps are only 2 minutes too. It's a lot less messier too not following the Jobo instructions for Tetenal with multiple 30 sec washes; the kitchen floor used to end up mess. Also with the Tetenal 3 bath I used make separate bleach as per Rudeofus instructions as the Fix part always sulphured out after a while so it ended up 4 bath process anyway. I'm happier too using the full process.
The one thing I noticed was that the overall time was not much longer than using the Tetenal 3 bath kit, as there are fewer wash stages; the reversal and pre-bleach steps are only 2 minutes too. It's a lot less messier too not following the Jobo instructions for Tetenal with multiple 30 sec washes; the kitchen floor used to end up mess. Also with the Tetenal 3 bath I used make separate bleach as per Rudeofus instructions as the Fix part always sulphured out after a while so it ended up 4 bath process anyway. I'm happier too using the full process.
Where can I get the 5l bellini kit in the us?
Freestyle only lists 1l. Arista is too expensive and and I loved the tetenal 4 bath kit, so I dont want to compromise further.
Right now seems like I will have to send out my e6 unless I can find something as good and more economical
Freestyle only lists 1l. Arista is too expensive and and I loved the tetenal 4 bath kit, so I dont want to compromise further.
Right now seems like I will have to send out my e6 unless I can find something as good and more economical
I would contact Bellini directly, they are very helpful. But I suspect the 5l kits are not being made at present.
And also contact Tetenal to encourage them to re-launch their 4-bath kit?
And also contact Tetenal to encourage them to re-launch their 4-bath kit?
I haven't seen Bellini 5L E6 for a long time now. I would buy this, should it be available. I am satisfied with their E6 chemistry, which works as fine as Fuji. Results look better than those made with Tetenal - provided you don't try to press the chemistry too much. Using one liter for 12 films by reusing it is obviously too much for any E6 first developer. It can be done, but the results are not up to standards.
Tetenal has a problem because the chemical company making their chemistry went bankrupt, and for the time being, their products are not available. They are working on getting the production back on line. For Tetenal, the simplified kits are important, as they are the original inventor of these "press kits" in the 1980's. All later "simplified home kits" for color processes are more or less copies of Tetenal chemistry.
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For some reason the 5 liter kit is not available. I guess their markup can't cover a possible discount for larger quantities to sell well...
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- Roger Cole
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Bellini E6 kit should be a proper option.
I'm not paying the premium for buying in 1L size. Get me the 5L or at least more than 1L in the US and I'll consider Bellini.
Roger, what are your other options in the US? CineStill's 3/4 bath kit?
I have never heard that Tetenal made their products in the USA. As far as I know, it was all made in Germany. There have been some rumors about Tetenal trying to get their production running, but I can´t confirm that. The manufacturer of their chemistry went bankrupt, and all I have seen in market afrer that are old stocks. Who makes Kodak products made earlier by Tetenal, such as HC-110, which has been sporadically available in Europe, I don´t know.
In Europe, for E6, the options are 1 liter kit from Bellini, 2.5L kit from Jobo and Fuji Hunt chemistries in larger quantities. There are of course those CineStills. but ruining your film with non-standard, bad chemistry with today´s film prices and availability of slide film is waste of money.
Well, let's be fair: 'non-standard' does not equal 'bad', per se. And 'bad' is a subjective term that raises the question what criteria are applied.
Btw, my US-production comment was about Fuji, not Tetenal.
An update: I heard from Tetenal 1847 yesterday and they assure me, for E6 kits,
"We are setting up a new production which takes time. The time of delivery is about 12 weeks."
That takes us to early January 2024 (just be be optimistic
). I do hope they sort their supplier/production issues. I'm managing OK with the Bellini 7-bath 1 litre kit, it's easier than it first looks as there are no rinses between most of the baths. But I still prefer the Tetenal 4-bath 2.5 litre kit and it works out cheaper for me.
"We are setting up a new production which takes time. The time of delivery is about 12 weeks."
That takes us to early January 2024 (just be be optimistic
). I do hope they sort their supplier/production issues. I'm managing OK with the Bellini 7-bath 1 litre kit, it's easier than it first looks as there are no rinses between most of the baths. But I still prefer the Tetenal 4-bath 2.5 litre kit and it works out cheaper for me.
An update: I heard from Tetenal 1847 yesterday and they assure me, for E6 kits,
"We are setting up a new production which takes time. The time of delivery is about 12 weeks."
That takes us to early January 2024 (just be be optimistic
This is great news, considering there is no E6 Lab left ih Ireland anymore.
I'm inclined to believe that. Fifteen years ago I was able to get 120 and 135 processed by Esler Crawford in Belfast and a lab in Lurgan. Snappy Snaps may do E6 but, as they ruined a 135 roll of XP2 for me a few years ago, I haven't tried to confirm that.
But googling "E6 processing Belfast" does bring up https://www.happyireland.ie/services/film-processing/e6-slide-processing/ . I've never heard of them before but they could actually do what they suggest. More than that I can't say, as I no longer expose transparency film.
MattKing
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Thread title amended - because it has been bothering me ever since the thread started!
Hope your access to E6 development improves.
Hope your access to E6 development improves.
I think Tetenal 1847 are finally defunct ... emails in the past 10 days to the previously active addresses:
info@tetenal.com and order@tetenal.com
are both bouncing.
Ah well, thank goodness for Bellini E6 kits, they work well.
info@tetenal.com and order@tetenal.com
are both bouncing.
Ah well, thank goodness for Bellini E6 kits, they work well.
what's the longevity looking like now?
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if you look over in our forum you can vote on which former TT products to revive. The E-6 Kit made it in the top three. We just released the C-41 with E-6 to follow shortly.
That is great news!!
Well done.
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