Three scenarios:
1. If you like a certain film and it is no longer made, then you have no choice but to buy it expired. Unfortunately, most sellers on the 'Bay have no information on how it was stored over the years. Many appear to be buyers who visit sales where a house or estate is being cleaned out. One in awhile, you are lucky and can find a seller who stored his own film in a freezer and is now selling it.
2. Occasionally, a trustworthy seller like Ultrafine Online sells cold-stored expired film. This is a safe bet.
3. Currently available film that is expired but sold at close to current new price. This is utterly baffling to me. I think many of the sellers are dreamers who think they have something rare and precious. Why buy 10-year-old Tri-X when you can buy it brand new unless the price is drastically reduced (and it never is). Bizarre.
But if it's expired, it won't look like the original unexpired emulsion you liked.
But if it's expired, it won't look like the original unexpired emulsion you liked.
But if it's color negatives, it's really anyone's guess what is "real" as in this example of fresh perfectly exposed Kodak Gold 100 that every lab has probably processed and printed for years except now they are scanned . . .
Kodak Gold 100-7_30-36 Coolscan-Noritsu by Les DMess, on Flickr
Many years ago I saw a local CL listing for free box of Kodak Ektar 125 that's been sitting out in a hot Atlanta covered driveway for many years. So I picked it up and tried a few rolls at various ISO settings to try to determine if they were still useful.
odak Ektar 125 box by Les DMess, on Flickr
It expired in 1992 and I picked it up shot, processed and scanned in 9/2010. I figure the optimum setting was ISO Les DMess, on Flickr
That depends on many factors. Have you not read this thread?
The quality of an expired film is not much different from a fresh one. Expired film needs good light.
Most expired film shots I've seen posted have colors that don't quite seem normal. If that's what you like, fine. But if you're hoping for normal colors, I think you're going to wait awhile before you get a shot that is normal.
If kept cool and dark, could be. When shooting Ektachrome 64 a couple of years back, all I got was pink and faint - far, far removed from anything fresh.
If I had to pay for it even half a price of E-6 film - which would be 8-9 EUR - I'd be heavily disappointed, yet you hardly can find expired slide film for such a low price, it's a mess and a risk that doesn't justify the asking price - you still have to pay a pretty penny for that processing or a little bit less for chemicals.
Any image or negative that has a prominent colour, like above, will cause a scanner to autocorrect it
It is the scanner operator that should see this and make the necessary correction.
For me it's a blessing that there is an expired film. I'm not sure that without her I would have been able to do film photography at all. The minimum price for a color film in Ukraine is $15, tomorrow I hope to buy 40 rolls of expired Konika at an auction no more than $5 per roll. The quality of an expired film is not much different from a fresh one. Expired film needs good light.
Yashika Zoomate 70 Camera Konica Film
UFO Image Point and Shoot Camera Konica Film 100
In the case of black and white film, everything is even more interesting. The minimum price at which I can buy a fresh film is about 5 dollars, but I will buy an overdue film for 1-2 dollars. A little benzotriazole during development and there is almost no veil at all.
In addition, I trade cameras and I need to check and test a lot, I absolutely could not do this with fresh film, the price for it is sometimes higher than the price of the camera. On Saturday I will test AGFA Camera Werk AG and Zorkiy 2C. Zorky 2C to make sure the curtains are intact, you need to either disassemble the camera or shoot a test film, of course it’s easier for me to spend $ 1 and shoot the film.
This is the worst example I have but for the most part these cheap minilabs blowout highlights, over sharpen and apply too much contrast.
Well, I beg to differ. The Frontier and Pakon film scanners are now cheap and like any piece of equipment, if used correctly by an operator that knows what they are doing, they will produce excellent results.
The lab your used may not have been very well run but it shouldn't tar all minilab with the one brush.
Agree that with knowledgeable operator that is given time, a good result can be achieved. What I pointed out as the problem is that supercheap minilab scans are done fully automatic and do not get reviewed.
How about nearly 20 year expired Kodak Royal Gold 25. Unlike the Kodak Ektar 125 - left out in the hot Atlanta elements, this was refrigerated.
Kodak Royal Gold 25 by Les DMess, on Flickr
Seems to be perfectly fine.
I am impressed and grateful. In fact, if someone really wants to support, they can always find my store by simply asking Google for my nickname)) Fresh film is supplied to me by my daughter who lives in the Czech Republic. eBay has blocked the possibility of buying even a digital product from Ukraine))Should we all send kitos some film as a gesture of solidarity?
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