There’s also a wonderful hour long interview with AA, where you see him work, microwave his prints, wax lyrical on his life and suck up to a mustachiod snarky Georgia O'Keith.
There’s also a wonderful hour long interview with AA, where you see him work, microwave his prints, wax lyrical on his life and suck up to a mustachiod snarky Georgia O'Keith.
I need a darkroom like that! Half a day to get the exposure right sound like me.
There’s also a wonderful hour long interview with AA, where you see him work, microwave his prints, wax lyrical on his life and suck up to a mustachiod snarky Georgia O'Keith.
Philosophy, especially in the hands of art schools, ruined art. In the words of Miro, everything has gone downhill since the days of the cave paintings.
would have helped if you actually answered my question.I am not interested in the cutting and pasting. I do not care for Surrealism. The focusing is part of composition to I do not have a problem with that. But I do not care for the supernatural creatures such as but not limited so Vampires, Werewolves, Fairies, Elves, Ghosts, Leprechauns, Unicorns and Virgins.
Philosophy, especially in the hands of art schools, ruined art. In the words of Miro, everything has gone downhill since the days of the cave paintings.
couldn't agree more. this whole conversation is kind of funnyNothing has ruined art. Art cannot be ruined. Pay no attention to dead Miro; if he ever said what you claim he was mistaken.
The term “art” has not been ruined.Even the term "art" has been ruined. Any word that means just anything, doesn't really mean anything specific at all. Worst thing that ever happened to photography is "art".
don't be too sure of yourself DREW.jwarden - didn't you just use the term "art". That proves its ruined! ... And jnantz doesn't seem to realize that cave painting was before the 1880's. They invented carbon printing, as well as red iron oxide and yellow ochre printing. I wish my view camera had a wooly mammoth dark cloth.
jwarden - didn't you just use the term "art". That proves its ruined! ..
Hey, Mac...I resemble that remark. My carbons are like silver gelatin prints on steroids. You know, gaining a little weight, and watch those mood swings...would have helped if you actually answered my question.
vaughn makes carbon prints which were made during the pictorials time period as well, are you suggesting that he considers his work to be paintings like the rest of the people making photographs during that time period ?
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The short:Funny how sooner or later most threads converge to “what is art”.
yeah. ... I can only imagine what they look like, I have never seen a carbon print before..Hey, Mac...I resemble that remark. My carbons are like silver gelatin prints on steroids. You know, gaining a little weight, and watch those mood swings...
I've looked at that print at least 50 times, over the years. It dazzles each time...Hey, Mac...I resemble that remark. My carbons are like silver gelatin prints on steroids. You know, gaining a little weight, and watch those mood swings...
would have helped if you actually answered my question.
vaughn makes carbon prints which were made during the pictorials time period as well, are you suggesting that he considers his work to be paintings like the rest of the people making photographs during that time period ?
there was no such thing as art before the 1800s ..
couldn't agree more. this whole conversation is kind of funny
its like saying the worst thing that happened to a peanut butter and jelly sandwich is sliced bread...
really ? so because its an older process it is not allowed to be used by pictorialists ? you mentioned painterly photography and I still haven 't figured out what you meant because when I asked specifically you made the comment about a trombone and automobile. many of the pictorialist photographers were using this older type of printing in their work / pictorialist and photo-secession were doing all sorts of stuff. they also gravitated towards craft related / hand made platinum printing and gum over platinum &c to differentiate themselves from snapshot culture. (push button we do the rest) just like people who use film today, do the same thing to differentiate themselves from digital camera culture, and how people who do alternative process stuff do that work to differentiate themselves from people who do b/w film and enlarging / contact printing...No, it is an older form of photographic printing.
not trolling at all, claiming artifacts made by an olde civilization as art is a new concept established in the 1800s. it is part of the whole idea of dividing people into races, categorizing pigeonholing everyone to establish cultural dominance of western men. modern western society claims things to be art that were never intended to be called art. we may see them as artistic but they were not made to be art ( have no use but being something ) but made by a society of "others" to be ruled and never let in because of their other-ness but at the same time celebrated because of the wonderful things they made by hand, close to nature &c... the whole noble savage type nonsense. everything from tribal masks to cave paintings. think of a spear or weapon or tomahawk used by a Native American. those things might look like art, and could be / can / are sometimes placed in museums and art galleries as art, but they were not intended to be art, they had / have a use/purpose. it has to do with intent and use, art has no use other than to be art.Well we now have established that you do not have a life outside of APUG trolling. By the way the longest continuous civilization, the Australian Aborigines, have petroglyphs that are over 50,000 years old.
Why do you think Ansel Adams is better known than William Mortensen? Both have books on photographic aesthetics and techniques. Has “pure photography” won over Pictorialism?
This is a ridiculous accusation.Well again we now have established that you do not have a life outside of APUG trolling.
jnantz - you are displaying a lot of basic ignorance of certain subjects, with unwarranted prejudicial stereotypes of you own. Anyone with REAL education in some of these topics can spot that really fast. "Art has no use other than to be art" ????? Tell that to the last 40,000 years of practice. Would anything count, by your draconian definition? And to give you just a tiny hint, there might be specialists in the field of Paleolithic art / non-art lurking around, who have uncovered many such things with their own hands, and intensively studied them at one time or another, who find your notion ridiculous.
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