Who Likes Olympus Half-Frame SLRs?

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So does D2, which I am also considering. Only difference between D2 and D3 I could find was that D2 has f/1.9 lens whereas D3 has f/1.7

Just one MORE reason to get the D3.
 

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Some people say the Earth is flat, too.

I have plenty of prints from half-frames that are several feet wide, but as with any format, for large prints you need to be attentive -- fine-grained film, tripod, accurate focusing, adequate DOF, etc.

Olympus made a great 38mm half-frame enlarging lens, but others did as well. The Fujinon EP 38mm is very similar. I use a Schneider 35mm. For a complete list -- pretty long -- see:

http://www.subclub.org/darkroom/lenses.htm
 

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Some people say the Earth is flat, too.
Very true. I suppose I'll find out how D3 performs sooner or later. I'm planning to put Kentmere 100 and pull it to EI50 for a start, cause that's what I have readily available.

Hmm. There's indeed plenty of options. Surprisingly Olympus has just one lens, while others have several. Pretty strange for company who promoted half frame more than anyone else did.
 

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I'm curious if these flaws with the camera were reported by the seller. I've thought about buying a Pen-F or FV from Japan but I don't want to have to fix it or have it fixed nor send it back to Japan. If I buy one I want it right from the start, unpack, load film, and shoot, and I'd be willing to pay accordingly.
 

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The seller was quite specific that the camera was in junk condition, unlike those who describe cameras with entire ecosystem of fungus on the lens as "Mint-". But I just got lucky, two of my friends had bad luck with Japanese sellers.
 

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The seller was quite specific that the camera was in junk condition, unlike those who describe cameras with entire ecosystem of fungus on the lens as "Mint-". But I just got lucky, two of my friends had bad luck with Japanese sellers.

Got it, thanks.
 

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I ran a strip of Kentmere 100 and a strip of HP5+, both at box speed in my Pen D3.





The lens has a potential to give nice bokeh, if used under the right circumstances. I'm still pretty rusty with focusing when shooting at small apertures. Scans look adequate, I'll run a couple more strips and then do the printing. Might as well put a color film, to see color rendition capabilities of that lens on D3. All in all, it's a nice toy, easy to play with, although hard to grip firmly, some sort of strap is a must have accessory.
 
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Tried Fuji C200 in D3. Bokeh looks pretty neat, although contrast seems to suffer wherever there's a bright spot in the picture. It's a pity I'm giving up on colour film.



 

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My wife is all 4:3, so Olympus (and one Panasonic) rules! Alas digital!
My younger years were Minox 35s (one with B&W, one with color slides).

Lovely shots, sir, of a lovely woman!
 

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I still treat half-frame as "just for fun" format so I buy cheap HF cameras when I see them.

Well, I decided to stop doing that and downsized the HF herd to 4 cameras (and will probably cut that down to just two cameras (one Pen F or FT SLR and either Fujica Drive or Canon Demi EE17 p&s). Still don't know if I can start treating it as a full serious format and only carry HF camera without FF backup. Probably have to print more side-by-side to decide...

Pen FT / 3.5/20mm / Kodak Ektar 100:



Leica M2 / Konica M-Hexanon 2.8/28mm / Lomography CN 800:

 

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Still don't know if I can start treating it as a full serious format and only carry HF camera without FF backup.

Half frame was originally aimed at the "4x6 prints and never enlargements, save money on film" consumer level photographer (same target market as 126 and 110), but film has improved so much since the 1960s that you can make pretty nice large prints from half frame, if the lens is good (the Zuiko on an Olympus Pen meets this criterion, in my experience, what I've heard/read suggests the Canon Demi was of similar quality). While the shutter/aperture mechanism in my Pen EE-S2 has gotten sticky again, fifteen years after cleaning, that camera produced very good negatives. I may have to research and shop for the manual version of the Olympus fixed-lens half frame...
 

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Not to derail,

What used to be unacceptable in a print is now lauded. Oh that looks so unique! What did you do? This said about an 8x10 print of a half-frame 400 speed film pushed a stop developed in Rodinal stand.
 

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Oh that looks so unique! What did you do?

The reply I've heard for that is "It's called grain. It's supposed to be there." None the less, the lenses of many of these old half-frame cameras are perfectly capable of big enlargements. If you don't like seeing grain, look for Pan F+ or Adox CMS20 II or Copex Rapid (Copex Rapid can yield an 8x10 from the 10x14 mm Minolta 16 frame that shows no grain at comfortable viewing distance).
 

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No Grain? Shoot microfiche stock. Zero grain. Also not much else, it's black or white.
 

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Both Adox CMS 20 (the original, don't know for sure about the II version) and Copex Rapid are or are derived from document films, much as Tech Pan was. I've used both the Adox (original) and Agfa stocks, and found it easily possible to get pictorial contrast and good tonality, even at good speed, using no developer magic other than low concentration Caffenol with ascorbate. I've also used other brands of microfilm (Kodak Imagelink and Fuji HR) with similar results, though they're slower. All are available in 35 mm perfed, though you probably have a buy a case (24 100 foot rolls?) to get the micofilms other than Copex Rapid fresh.
 

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Best part about microfilm is it was developed with long life as one of the main goals. The stuff never expires as far as I've experienced.
 

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I tried a Pan F a while back, but just not for me. However, nice to know that the cameras have that mysterious power of inducing serious GAS. Avoid Minox! Although only a few models of cameras made, (I have III, B, BL, C, and LX, not a collector...no original, titanium or gold models), a slew of accessories (finders, enlargers, developing tanks, etc) fill two boxes. Interestingly, I have little beyond the essentials in MF and LF.
 
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