What's in your fridge?

[Joel_L]

Wasn't really sure where to post this, guess I'll consider my fridge darkroom equipment.

I had one of those really small cubes that every time I opened it, film would fall out. I just picked up this bigger one. This one does not have a freezer compartment which I like better.

Now it looks empty, guess I need to buy more film........

 

[Paul Howell]

Beat me by a mile, I have my last 6 rolls of 35mm color. I don't refrigerate black and white.

 

[Alan9940]

Lightweight! I have a 16 cu ft chest freezer that's about 3/4 full of film and paper; with a few food items scattered about on top.

 

[MattKing]

Personally, I would be concerned about refrigerating the bulk loaders, unless I had a fully refrigerated room to load my individual cassettes in. Condensation being the concern.
Otherwise, it looks great.

 

[madNbad]

Personally, I would be concerned about refrigerating the bulk loaders, unless I had a fully refrigerated room to load my individual cassettes in. Condensation being the concern.
Otherwise, it looks great.

Matt
I keep a couple of bulk loaders in the refrigerator. Then let them sit at room temperature for a few days before loading a handful of cassettes. They go back in the refrigerator till I need more.

 

[MattKing]

Matt
I keep a couple of bulk loaders in the refrigerator. Then let them sit at room temperature for a few days before loading a handful of cassettes. They go back in the refrigerator till I need more.

That makes some sense. I tend to load rolls when I expect to need them in the next few days, so the "few days" of room temperature acclimatization wouldn't work for me.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I have a freezer full of film.

 

[jnamia]

Wasn't really sure where to post this, guess I'll consider my fridge darkroom equipment.

I had one of those really small cubes that every time I opened it, film would fall out. I just picked up this bigger one. This one does not have a freezer compartment which I like better.

Now it looks empty, guess I need to buy more film........

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I don't believe in putting film or paper in the fridge. I leave it out on shelves and have never had problems with loss of speed or fogging. I've been shooting about 97% expired film since about 2001 a variety of ISOs from PanF to 3200, film that has stored like that for at least 25 years and I've never had a problem. even shot well aged tmz that was stored in a dresser drawer for 10 years, film was shot and developed and was fine, no fog, nice grain and exposed like I always expose it, nothing different. The whole thing about "cosmic rays" I found to be utter nonsense after talking to a physics professor who had a device to record the instances of cosmic rays, when I mentioned that's why people put their film in the freezer she gave me a funny look that wasn't hard to understand. I'd rather keep food in my refrigerator so I can prepare for when food might not be as abundant or cheap in my grocery store and I'm going to be hungry. can't eat film or paper.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I don't believe in putting film or paper in the fridge. I leave it out on shelves and have never had problems with loss of speed or fogging. I've been shooting about 97% expired film since about 2001 a variety of ISOs from PanF to 3200, film that has stored like that for at least 25 years and I've never had a problem. even shot well aged tmz that was stored in a dresser drawer for 10 years, film was shot and developed and was fine, no fog, nice grain and exposed like I always expose it, nothing different. The whole thing about "cosmic rays" I found to be utter nonsense after talking to a physics professor who had a device to record the instances of cosmic rays, when I mentioned that's why people put their film in the freezer she gave me a funny look that wasn't hard to understand. I'd rather keep food in my refrigerator so I can prepare for when food might not be as abundant or cheap in my grocery store and I'm going to be hungry. can't eat film or paper.

It is up to you, but when I worked at Kodak, Kodak advised refrigerating or freezing film that will not be used right away. It is probably still true even though I no long work at Kodak.

 

[Joel_L]

Personally, I would be concerned about refrigerating the bulk loaders, unless I had a fully refrigerated room to load my individual cassettes in. Condensation being the concern.
Otherwise, it looks great.

Like madNbad, I have never had issues with condensation. I usually just take mine out the night before I plan to roll some.

 

[NB23]

With the late kodak backing paper debacle, I refrain from freezing or even refrigerating 120 film.

 

[MattKing]

FWIW, the Kodak data sheets still reference cool to cold storage for colour films, but don't really make much reference to that sort of storage for black and white film storage.
And nothing in those references deals with what the effects might be of storing film that way in a plastic or bakelite bulk film holder (as compared to the manufacturer's packaging). It is with reference to that question that I expressed my concern.
I have film in the freezer. I have film in the fridge. And I have film - including my bulk film loaders - stored at moderate room temperatures.
It is the avoidance of unusually warm temperatures that you need to ensure.
And Cosmic rays? They go through refrigerators and freezers, so unless you have a decommissioned underground mine at your disposal, there is nothing you can do about them.

 

[Tel]

I have a freezer full of film.

+1 +2 mini-fridges. When it comes to film, I can't seem to resist a good deal....

 

[Moose22]

That makes some sense. I tend to load rolls when I expect to need them in the next few days, so the "few days" of room temperature acclimatization wouldn't work for me.

I left mine out overnight and loaded the next morning or night.

I've only done HP5 this way, but half a dozen rolls each time and haven't had a problem. I did this twice (10 or so rolls of 25 frames or less). Not scientific, just "It worked" for me to leave it out 12 or 24 hours and I didn't have issues.

I hadn't planned on doing it this way but that's how it worked out because I got a bargain on some short dated film. I'd rather do like you and not leave the loader refrigerated, so I haven't put the other bulk rolls (fp4 and delta 400) in their loaders and won't until I've burned through my short dated films so I can just switch to FP4 for a few months. Then leave them out and load a few at a time like you do.


As for the original topic... I've got several bins in the fridge and multiple ziplocks in the freezer festooned with various boxes in shades of green purple and black, orange, or white peeking out of them. My sister laughed at me when she saw, but my goal is 2 rolls a week, so it's only like a year or two's worth of film, I promise.

 

[Moose22]

+1 +2 mini-fridges. When it comes to film, I can't seem to resist a good deal....

Same.

From my previous post, I got some short dated Tr-x and Tmax right after I'd bought bulk rolls and some acros. But, tmax will NEVER be that cheap again and it had been cold stored by someone I trust, so of course I didn't pass it up.

Back up a month to the Acros... same story. Back up a month to the bulk rolls... same story. I feel like those deals won't be there again. Not any time soon, for certain.

 

[Joel_L]

Lightweight! I have a 16 cu ft chest freezer that's about 3/4 full of film and paper; with a few food items scattered about on top.

Wonder if the film smells like steak or the steak taste like film.

I'm working on it, I wont have a big chest freezer to fill, but I'll do a better job of filling what I have.

 

[jnamia]

And Cosmic rays? They go through refrigerators and freezers, so unless you have a decommissioned underground mine at your disposal, there is nothing you can do about them

exactly the whole thing is a crock of sheepshank

 

[MattKing]

exactly the whole thing is a crock of sheepshank

Not quite.
Well cosmic rays are difficult to avoid - you need to go deep underground to protect from damaging cosmic rays - the damage that heat and excess humidity can cause to film is something you can relatively easily protect against: any method you employ to keep film from excess heat and humidity will help extend its usefulness.
In many ways, the benefit of refrigeration or freezing comes from controlling the heat and humidity the film is exposed to.
If you have climate controlled room temperatures, storing the film in those conditions will also be beneficial.
The down side of both refrigeration and freezing is that they both require you to take steps to avoid the effects of condensation when the film is brought into room temperature air. That is one reason why room temperature storage in climate controlled conditions somewhere near 20C has a lot going for it.

 

[Sirius Glass]

+1 +2 mini-fridges. When it comes to film, I can't seem to resist a good deal....

Smart man or woman. One cannot have too much of a good thing.

 

[Sirius Glass]

On can control temperature and humidity, but realistically one cannot control cosmic rays.

 

[NB23]

Here’s my fridge. Then there’a a freezer, and another...

 

[mshchem]

Oh Boy

 

[Sirius Glass]

Here’s my fridge. Then there’a a freezer, and another... View attachment 303041 View attachment 303042 View attachment 303043 View attachment 303043

Too orderly for me.

 

[NB23]

Here are empty boxes that I’ve finished in the past 4-5

months

 

[Joel_L]

I obviously need to get out more.