On what planet?
That's been my personal experience. I find that if there's ONE photographer people in the general public know, it's Ansel Adams. Lately, the other one they know is Vivian Maier. And I've shown people who are not photographers my photography, which is definitely NOT rocks and trees and waterfalls, and frequently not f/64 front-to-back sharp (maybe even soft focus!), yet when they try to explain my work to a third party, they almost inevitably make a reference to Ansel Adams.
Of course commercial art affects emotions. If it didn't, why would advertisers use it to sell a product? Logos create the emotion of loyalty. Loyalty to a brand. It's very powerful. People want to be associated with the Swoosh of Nike and identify with great basketball stars. A nice commercial painting of a sweating guy in the the desert drinking down a cold Pepsi creates desire to buy the product. Art in this case is power to influence. That's emotion.
Anyway, you didn't respond to my question. My question of the poster was why he thinks it has to be "fine" art that only affects emotions? All art affects emotions. That's what art is. The question is what makes it "fine"? Why is Sally Mann's photo "fine" art but mine or yours isn't "fine" art?
I really don't see the point of endlessly discussing what is and isn't art, who is and isn't an artist, which art is fine and which isn't, (is the opposite of fine art, coarse art) They are just labels. I just expose film, develop it, print it and put them in a box.
Finally some one cut through the bandwidth wasting BS.
I stated earlier that all my work by definition is Fine Art, obviously by definition. IMNSHOExcept if you are not (or do not choose to be) a commercial photographer working for hire and yet your work is displayed (and presumably sold) in galleries and museums, what are you making? Decorations?
….But the logo does not inspire loyalty, it is just a symbol you have on your clothing or other possessions that makes you feel somehow part of what the brand wants to broadcast. ….
It isn't "fine art".
It is "Fine Art"
It is a label, not a statement of quality.
…..Something hand made (or in our case, hand printed) by a good craftsman, maybe…..
I really don't see the point of endlessly discussing what is and isn't art, who is and isn't an artist, which art is fine and which isn't, (is the opposite of fine art, coarse art) They are just labels. I just expose film, develop it, print it and put them in a box.
put them in a box
^^^THIS^^^
Yes, a marketing term.
And "film" is just a label, too.
Funny you should say that, a few weeks ago about 300 prints went into the rubbish bin, they were old, inferior prints that were taking up space.Bury the box and it is performance/conceptual art. Or better yet, burn it.
That's been my personal experience. I find that if there's ONE photographer people in the general public know, it's Ansel Adams. Lately, the other one they know is Vivian Maier. And I've shown people who are not photographers my photography, which is definitely NOT rocks and trees and waterfalls, and frequently not f/64 front-to-back sharp (maybe even soft focus!), yet when they try to explain my work to a third party, they almost inevitably make a reference to Ansel Adams.
Better to be alive and not famous than famous and dead. I'm sure if those two could speak, they'd confirm my thoughts.
Not sure in Ms. Maier's case. I don't know if she'd be happy or care either way.
I honestly have no idea as to what opinion/sentiment you are trying to convey. No one can debate what film is, art/artist is a term that has a different meaning for everyone, or, as in my case, the term is meaningless and I don't use it. The end result is a print/image, taken by a photographer, why complicate things.
Just that we all use labels (and film = cinema to some). You have labeled the label 'Art" as meaningless. It's your right and it's cool. But IRL, labels are just a part of the shorthand that makes communication easier and possible between people who want to communicate thoughts and ideas. If needed, one asks for a definition of a label someone uses for a better understanding without insisting that they use one's own definition.
For some, such as myself, the print is not the end result to be put away in a box. It is the interaction between the image/print and the photographer, and to take it one step further, the interaction between the print and the viewer that can be considered part of the end result. But that is just one way of approaching photography. YMMD.
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