That's rotten. There should not have been a dis-connect between the artist and the editors/publishers. It sounds like George Macy needed some help in selecting images, too. And there was a war on.I think since the reproduction failed the artist--Weston--the book fails as fine art. I do not have a first edition that Weston reacted so negatively to, but a much later one and the reproduction is mediocre. Apparently the original had a green cast to the photos as well as the paper, a choice the publisher made because of the book's title.
Or how about, an example of bad book making?When considering book-making as a fine art, if a book fails, is it therefore not fine art...or just example of bad fine art?
I disagree. a computer is just one tool of many to produce art or fine-art.To me, fine art is anything done without a computer. It is something that takes real human talent. It is a craft that is learned over time and perfected using your human skills and talents, not a programmers that has provided algorithms to give you the ability to reproduce within his constraints not through the expansion of your own progressive creativity.
Kev
Architecture is used to live or work in. Similar to let's say a Ferrari, crock ware, hand carved shotgun, and other functional art. I wouldn't put them in the same category as paintings or sculptures that basically you just look at for aesthetic or spiritual satisfaction. Then there is performance art like dance, music, singing, etc.See synonyms for: fine art / fine arts
noun
a visual art considered to have been created primarily for aesthetic purposes and judged for its beauty and meaningfulness, specifically, painting, sculpture, drawing, watercolor, graphics, and architecture.
They left out photography, probably to avoid discussions like this, LOL
Art could be an extension of creativeness and inventiveness in man. Allowing our minds to think out of the box into creative exploration has allowed us to advance in culture, science, and everything else. We learn about the environment and nature around us so we can use it more fully. Child and man just playing around surely have led to many inventions either by planning or serendipity.It should not have surprised me...my university was about the third one in the country to create a photography program actually within an Art Department.
I do like the idea someone put forward that art is a result of neoteny...the retention of the characteristics of youth into maturity. I am thinking along the lines of characteristics such as learning, play, and curiosity -- and how retaining such characteristics would favor the invention of art as a way to focus and express those characteristics as individuals and as a society.
I also like the idea the art was invented to keep the wackos productively occupied so they would not interfer with the necessities of running the cave/clan/tribe.
Lik! But if tin whistles are made of tin, are fog horns made of fog?Fine art is just like regular art, but instead of being done by regular people it's done by fine people.
And we won't even start considering French horns.Lik! But if tin whistles are made of tin, are fog horns made of fog?
Played? Like an Instrument? French Horns are Instruments.....?Oh...I thought that was just the way they were played...
funny thing tin whistles used to be made of tin and cost a penny ( were called penny whistles I think that was them ). now they are made of something else and cost a lot more than a penny.Lik! But if tin whistles are made of tin, are fog horns made of fog?
Actually French Horn is a misnomer. It’s just Horn.
Does this mean my grade 8 band teacher was wrong!?Actually French Horn is a misnomer. It’s just Horn.
And an English Horn isn't even a horn!Does this mean my grade 8 band teacher was wrong!?
I see more and more people setting up web sites (I plan to do one myself some day) to show and sell their photographs. A lot of them describe their work as Fine Art Photography whether it is darkroom produced or from an inkjet printer. Some of these people may be experienced and some not so.
So can someone define "Fine Art Photography" for me please? Does it matter how it is produced? Are we all Fine Art Photographers?
Peter
p.s. Apologies if this is in the wrong forum section.
Craftsmanship can be learned. Intent is more difficult.Well.... I answered my daughter's 'challenge to "Go and do and a Fine Art degree at the nearby university', after I was 'downsized' from the nearby Agriculture .Canada Research Centre (they needed the floor-space I occupied.
When taking the 'Photography course, I was somewhat "puzzled' for the need of a "meaning' for the photographs I stuck up on the wall for The Prof's (and fellow students' class critique). 'The quality of the image (ie composition and 'how well it was 'seen/recorded/processed and printed seemed to take second or third place to the "meaning" of the images. Craftsmanship seemed to take 'second and/or third place in the evaluation and final grade for the course.
In other words...."Intent' seemed to be more important than 'craftsmanship' when it came to one's final Course "grade".
Ken
Intent with inadequate craftsmanship is poor art. I admire fine craftsmanship more than some creations that pass for art.Craftsmanship can be learned. Intent is more difficult.
Intent with inadequate craftsmanship is poor art. I admire fine craftsmanship more than some creations that pass for art.
Craftsmanship can be learned. Intent is more difficult.
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