What has become of us all?

[chuckroast]

You should especially stay away from them. Definitely erratic.

But isn't that true of all New Yorkers? Asking for a friend.

Bwhahahahaha

 

[Don_ih]

things do gain depth if they're connected to the intent behind a photograph. In the cases when there's such a thing, of course. Let snapshots be their merry selves.

Snapshots generally have a much clearer and firmer intention than more formal, "artistic" photos.

"You are taking a photo of that tree. Why?"
"Gotta send it to my landscaper so he knows which one to cut down."

"You are taking a photo of that tree. Why?"
"Looks cool."

"You are taking a photo of that tree. Why?"
"I'm making art. There is no "Why"!"

 

[snusmumriken]

Perhaps it might be useful to think of photos in terms of half-lives? The kind of photo that is appreciated and curated will have a longer half-life.

 

[photogear]

A lot of others will say that someone into analogue tools is sad anyway

pentaxuser

I don't force someone else to think like I do.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

But isn't that true of all New Yorkers? Asking for a friend.

Bwhahahahaha

Well, I moved from NYC to New Jersey where everyone tailgates.

 

[fdonadio]

Snapshots generally have a much clearer and firmer intention than more formal, "artistic" photos.

"You are taking a photo of that tree. Why?"
"Gotta send it to my landscaper so he knows which one to cut down."

"You are taking a photo of that tree. Why?"
"Looks cool."

"You are taking a photo of that tree. Why?"
"I'm making art. There is no "Why"!"

I once took a picture of a tree because of its resemblance to another object. I really saw artistic value on it. And the tree does look cool! I hope it’s still there, in the middle of that plantation in Switzerland, unharmed.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Places like Paris are simply overrun. It's not about the phones. It's about the hordes of people dominating the place. Same with most European capitals. They've become 'unlivable' cities. And, of course, any of us visiting any of those places for pleasure is part of the problem.

If you stand in the back of the perpetual crowd surrounding Mona Lisa, you're part of that crowd. Is it good? Is it bad? The punters bring in the money that hopefully pays for a some decent security so the next batch of artworks isn't stolen, or that allows other works of art to be preserved in a durable manner. At the same time, the city center of Paris has become a terrible place to spend time at due to the hordes of Chinese, Americans etc.

As to photography - I see it as a way people experience something. At what point do people grab their phones/cameras to photograph something? When they're impressed, moved, amazed. It's an expression of emotion. Same with 'sharing' it on Instagram etc. It's of course meaningless to everyone else - but it's meaningful for the person who snaps the shot and then shares it.

Who am I to judge that?

We have a lot of time and money on our hands. This allows us to travel at a massive scale and flood these places. Again, is it good, is it bad? If you're there to witness it and it bothers you - aren't you just being a part of the problem? Stay away from those places if you think that's the case. Accept the consequence.

L'enfer: c'est les autres.

We travel off seasons to avoid those crowds. We have been doing that for decades.

 

[Tel]

We travel off seasons to avoid those crowds. We have been doing that for decades.

Yup..Best thing about retirement is that I can travel when I want to. Fares are cheaper, weather is often more pleasant and places are less crowded in off-season.

 

[photogear]

Yup..Best thing about retirement is that I can travel when I want to. Fares are cheaper, weather is often more pleasant and places are less crowded in off-season.

I apply the same plan as well.

 

[skahde]

We travel off seasons to avoid those crowds. We have been doing that for decades.

With Italy we tried that in 2024 in late October in Tuscany and two weeks ago at the end of last February in Rome, with a distance to the christmas-holidays as well as easter. The hordes (which we admittedly were part of) were still hardly bearable. We will not be going again, mainland-Italy is from the list. Maybe we give Sicily a chance next year, the children were there and liked it.

 

[koraks]

We travel off seasons to avoid those crowds. We have been doing that for decades.

So do we. These places are overrun also in off seasons. Last time we visited Paris was 2 years ago in early February. There were a lot of people like you and us, avoiding the 'season'.

We will not be going again, mainland-Italy is from the list. Maybe we give Sicily a chance next year, the children were there and liked it.

Off-season, Sicily is great, but so are parts of Southern mainland Italy, like Puglia. Tuscany of course is pretty much hopeless.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Yup..Best thing about retirement is that I can travel when I want to. Fares are cheaper, weather is often more pleasant and places are less crowded in off-season.

We travel when schools are in session to avoid too many kids. We're retired.

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

The better cruise ships are good if you want to avoid too many kids. You tend to get more mature and older couples. Of course, the easier, less athletic, off-ship tours are booked quicker. Book them early before you sail.

 

[MartinCrabtree]

Cruise ships? Yeah, captured on a floating overcrowded pathogen generator. Not for me.

 

[koraks]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7322224/

 

[Chuck1]

Cruise ships? Yeah, captured on a floating overcrowded pathogen generator. Not for me.

Mommy
Norovirus

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

Cruise ships? Yeah, captured on a floating overcrowded pathogen generator. Not for me.

That's true. But it is fun to cruise if you have never done it before.

 

[Pieter12]

Cruise ships? Yeah, captured on a floating overcrowded pathogen generator. Not for me.

Same here. I'd rather have hot needles stuck in my eyes.

 

[chuckroast]

Cruise ships? Yeah, captured on a floating overcrowded pathogen generator. Not for me.

I grew up working summers doing maintenance on commercial fishing boats. As the youngest of the bunch I got to work from the bowels of these vessels to tiptop of their masts as the Bilge Rat Apprentice designee.

If I never see another boat as long as I live - I don't care how much booze and food they serve - it will be way too soon. The stench of rotting fish and diesel stays with you forever ...