Maybe film will all of the sudden become extremely popular and they will have more new films of all speeds than ever before....I WISH
So, you could take the two aforementioned ISOed color films (800 and 50) and process them in the same tank and they would come out right? Asking because I don't process color film but this sounds wrong to my thinking.
I think one of the problems with the high speed films is not that digital has killed them, but they don't keep as well. Digital has obviously surpassed film a long time ago in terms of getting grain-free images at speeds higher than 800. Nobody is using T-Max 3200 because of the lack of grain. However, those films don't keep as long, so a coating run has to be used up faster than say something like Plus-X. If it doesn't get used up fast enough, Kodak dumps the rest, and loses money on that run.
It is a shame, because I rather like TMZ and Portra 800. Hope they stick around. I'm buying them and using them.
I really do wish I could get something like Vision 3 500T in 35mm. That'd be great.
I'll have to take a look at my films and see if the higher speeds seem to expire quicker.....
All of this is why I see the run-of-the mill stuff that 90% of plain-ol' photographers use (100/160 daylight color neg films, and a few 400s, maybe) sticking around longer than the cool unique stuff, that has already largely made its exit. These reason for these special analog materials existing in the first place is nullified by the very existence of digital (instant previews, in-camera white balancing, and high ISOs). The very existence of digital does not nullify anything that the lower-speed daylight films provide. Therefore, there is less for these materials to fight against; just details of whether the market is big enough to support their existence, not the entire reason for their existence (which was originally to do all the cool stuff that digital now does for most people), like the high-speed/tungsten/instant/transparency stuff has to do.
That about sums it up. A self-fulfilling prophecy for certain. Twenty years from now, students will ironically be saying "Man, color film is so cool!", even though all we will have left in color is Gold 400 and Ektar 100. LOL! Nearly all serious film shooters will probably be using primarily black and white by that time.
Superia 1600 and Natura 1600 aren't the same things, are they? Natura seems to be quite popular over here.
Sorry to be a downer, but I think we will be hard pressed to find much b/w in 20 years, let alone color! Just one man's opinion...and not a happy one at that. If Ilford survives, we may have some films then. We shall see.
But exactly what makes people abandon film now or in 2015, in large scale??
Sorry, but I just can't see your logic no matter what. You are just repeating... "film will die film will die no I don't want it but film will die boohoohoo"... Giving no arguments.
People are buying film and want to use it, like you and me.
So, it is made.
It is indeed logical that 5 years ago people went digital. It was a new medium that time and gave new possibilities to many.
But exactly what makes people abandon film now or in 2015, in large scale??
I just can't understand the "chain reaction" theory. It's just the opposite; by discontinuing less used products, a manufacturer can restore the balance and get more profit from the remaining ones and keep them in production. That's the very basics of any industrial process.
A full 6x7cm digital back 30mp+, 14 stop sensor, the ISO quality of 35mm sensors, capability to shoot movie mode as well for $1k?
The low light sensor from a dSLR (7D, 5DII, other etc) placed into a 100ft magazine, with implemented bicubic filtering down rather than nearest neighbour, and 14-bit 4:4:4 encoding for the H.264 codec? Or same sensor in a 400ft or 1000ft magazine, with 4:4:4/14-bit no down-rezzing compressed losslessly with something like FFV1 to a fast magazine internal SSD RAID setup?
Dont think we'll be seeing those for a while... but the magic lantern guys going for the codec replacement, so we may get to configure the H.264 into the 4:4:4/14-bit profile after all.
I find 800 to be my favourite speed (for both black and white and colour), so I hope not. Usually 800z for colour. I don't really get the argument about digital replacing colour films for high ISO. That's usually where digital falls apart, to my eyes. I can't tell the difference (on first glance) for bright well exposed daylight, with low contrast, between film and digital at ISO100. In situation where one is using a high ISO, it's often in a scene with a lot of contrast, and perhaps mixed lighting etc. In those situtations, you often get those weird colour shifts on digital, especially around lights, together with a 'flat' colour rendition. Looks awful to me. Doesn't seem to bother most people, as it's rarely mentioned. Given the choice between digital and not taking the picture, I wouldn't bother taking the picture. What's the point if it doesn't give you the result you like? So if ISO 800 film is gone, my answer would be that I just wouldn't take pictures in that situation.
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