What effing universe is this?

[ChristopherCoy]

I don't think that the sound the shutter makes has any significant effect on the negatives or the resulting prints...at least I've never noticed any....but maybe that's the secret behind the Leica ?

Nah, the secret behind Leica is ego.

 

[BradS]

Nah, the secret behind Leica is ego.

or lack of...

 

[ChristopherCoy]

or lack of...

...certainly more probable!

 

[NB23]

The secret behind the Leica is exactly the same secret behind the Nikon S rangefinders; Namely, a horizontal traveling curtain.

Bitching Leica is getting old. Once you realize that the cost of Leica ownership is among the lowest. It ends up paying you. In the end, even a Big mac costs more than a Leica. But of course, takes a brain to understand.

 

[logan2z]

Nah, the secret behind Leica is ego.

Why do you keep painting every Leica owner with this brush?

I personally own Leica cameras and lenses because I like using them - no other reason. And I do use them for their intended purpose, all the time. They're not a status symbol, jewelry, etc. for me

If you don't like Leica cameras/lenses or think they're overpriced then it's your perogative to not buy them. But these, repeated, silly jabs at Leica owners are getting old.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

Why do you keep painting every Leica owner with this brush?

I personally own Leica cameras and lenses because I like using them - no other reason. And I do use them for their intended purpose, all the time. They're not a status symbol, jewelry, etc. for me

If you don't like Leica cameras/lenses or think they're overpriced then it's your perogative to not buy them. But these, repeated, silly jabs at Leica owners are getting old.

Aw, have I pushed a button? Feel free to move on.

 

[BradS]

It seems the point is demonstrated.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

right?

 

[logan2z]

Bitching Leica is getting old. Once you realize that the cost of Leica ownership is among the lowest. It ends up paying you. In the end, even a Big mac costs more than a Leica. But of course, takes a brain to understand.

Save your breath.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

Save your breath.

If you're agreeing with that miserable troll, you've got bigger problems than little old me, that's for certain.

 

[Huss]

It seems the point is demonstrated.

I have to say it's pretty nice using a camera that just feels so right, beat up on it for a few years, then find out it's now worth $500 more than what you paid for it.

You can determine what point is demonstrated by that.

 

[NB23]

If you're agreeing with that miserable troll, you've got bigger problems than little old me, that's for certain.

Your confessed mental illness is showing right through.

 

[logan2z]

I have to say it's pretty nice using a camera that just feels so right, beat up on it for a few years, then find out it's now worth $500 more than what you paid for it.

You can determine what point is demonstrated by that.

You egotistical SOB

 

[ChristopherCoy]

Y'all have to lighten up. I'm sure I have friends who shoot Leica's and I wouldn't disown them for it... although I can't think of any right off the top of my head. But it is still my belief that it takes a special kind of person to spend that much money on such a simple piece of equipment, and that the majority of people who use them do it not for the qualities it possesses, but for the perceived fame and acceptance they receive because of it. If that is offensive, then by all means, the ignore button is there for a reason.

 

[Horatio]

Hey, it's not just cameras that have cultish status. Ever hear of Cervelo road bikes?

 

[Huss]

Y'all have to lighten up. I'm sure I have friends who shoot Leica's and I wouldn't disown them for it... although I can't think of any right off the top of my head. But it is still my belief that it takes a special kind of person to spend that much money on such a simple piece of equipment, and that the majority of people who use them do it not for the qualities it possesses, but for the perceived fame and acceptance they receive because of it. If that is offensive, then by all means, the ignore button is there for a reason.

Chris, the thing is that is all your perception with the acknowledgment of not knowing anyone who uses one.

And yet there are a bunch of people on this site who DO use Leicas, yet you either choose to ignore that, or are calling them idiots.
When the fact of the matter is they are obviously anything but.
Unless you think it is dumb to use a superbly made piece of equipment that brings enjoyment in usage, that also happens to be a financially astute purchase.

Anyway. Just don't want this site to disappear down into petty squabbling over stuff.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

Anyway. Just don't want this site to disappear down into petty squabbling over stuff.

Agree to disagree for the sake of the site.

 

[warden]

Y'all have to lighten up. I'm sure I have friends who shoot Leica's and I wouldn't disown them for it... although I can't think of any right off the top of my head. But it is still my belief that it takes a special kind of person to spend that much money on such a simple piece of equipment, and that the majority of people who use them do it not for the qualities it possesses, but for the perceived fame and acceptance they receive because of it. If that is offensive, then by all means, the ignore button is there for a reason.

Is today divide the forum day? What special kind of person are you referring to? Lots of people here use Leicas and all other brands of cameras as well.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

Nah, you're not baiting me into anything else. I've agreed to disagree.

Moving on.

 

[warden]

Nah, you're not baiting me into anything else. I've agreed to disagree.

Moving on.

Must be a full moon or something. Drew is on one thread calling out forum members daring to use a Lomo or similar inexpensive camera, and over here it's those using Leicas that are called out.

 

[mawz]

The secret behind the Leica is exactly the same secret behind the Nikon S rangefinders; Namely, a horizontal traveling curtain.

Bitching Leica is getting old. Once you realize that the cost of Leica ownership is among the lowest. It ends up paying you. In the end, even a Big mac costs more than a Leica. But of course, takes a brain to understand.

That's not unusual, there's a ton of cameras with a horizontal travelling curtain. These range from the Nikon F, F2 & F3 through the lowly Cosina-built Canon T60 (IIRC the last SLR introduced with a horizontal shutter, it was a special ask from Canon to Cosina for that model as all the related CS-1 variants have a vertical shutter).

 

[NB23]

That's not unusual, there's a ton of cameras with a horizontal travelling curtain. These range from the Nikon F, F2 & F3 through the lowly Cosina-built Canon T60 (IIRC the last SLR introduced with a horizontal shutter, it was a special ask from Canon to Cosina for that model as all the related CS-1 variants have a vertical shutter).

Exactly my point, there’s nothing unusual.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

What do you mean by tinny? My F2 has a nice clunk sound. The F5 is a bit on the "shhhck" sound.

 

[xtolsniffer]

I have the Nikon FM3a which is absolutely amazing in all respects except one: the sound it makes. The tinny metallic "ding" is just awful. All other cameras I own (digital and film) all sound beefier, more like "clunk". It's not about loudness, it's about the tone. Even the Mamiya 645 Pro TL with its bigger mirror sounds better.

I wonder if there's another F which is better in that regard. I searched on Youtube, and the F3HP tone seems lower, but I doubt the quality of recording on Youtube can be comparable between videos.

I've always thought the FM3a sounds tinny too. My FM and FE make much nicer sounds.

 

[Bronson Dugnutt]

Spoiler: Shutters

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1K3EmdomUVF1vxLFG5FO1L5ByXeTzRLzx/view?usp=sharing