Want to Buy Wanted $10 Leica rangefinder for personal use. CL Found.

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indeed, $1 is still sufficient valuable consideration for a legal contract out here in the wild west.
 

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Back in the days when I was constructing contracts for clients, I was always tempted to use a peppercorn instead.
The other alternative is to ensure that a contract is signed under seal.
You don't actually need any of that - an exchange of commercially valuable promises provides ample consideration, but it is simpler by far to prove that $1.00 (or even a peppercorn) constitutes valuable consideration.
I am equally sure a working Leica would suffice, but an APS point and shoot camera - that might be problematic!
 

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While we’re on this diversion... I’m familiar with a dollar, but never actually saw a dollar be exchanged. It seems almost like a figure-of-speech. To be legal, does a dollar or peppercorn actually have to pass from hand to hand?

oh... I now see: a promise is sufficient. I was typing a lot slower than you, Matt.
 

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$10 can't even buy what they wrongly called "The Poor Man Leica", the Canonet QL17.

I've got one of those; no one would ever mistake it for a Leica in any way that matters. It's a compact 35mm RF camera with a good, fast lens -- one, single, non-interchangeable lens (in a leaf shutter). It's a good camera, without doubt, and lives up the QL -- easiest loading 35mm I've ever handled -- but it's no Leica.
 

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To be legal, does a dollar or peppercorn actually have to pass from hand to hand?
A written acknowledgement of receipt - "the receipt and sufficiency of which is hereby acknowledged" - is enough.
But if you have an oral contract - which for things other than land are just as valid - yes that thing must pass from hand to hand, or there must be some other proof of an exchange of consideration.
 

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We are conditioned by the constraints, experiences and circle we move in and my circle etc may bear little relationship to the OP's but given the normal view of Leicas and their desirability, my gut feeling is that the chances of finding such a Leica and then persuading the owner to part with it for $10 has to be so remote as to be virtually non existent unless that person can be convinced by the OP that the OP can somehow offer him a vision of being able to improve the lot of analogue photography that makes the gift, which is what it is, worthwhile.

The problem is that an owner of such a camera has to be able to weigh up and decide the likelihood that the donation will achieve this level of benefit to the film community via a person of whom he/she has no direct or extensive knowledge of. The owner of the camera has to "believe" in a deep spiritual sense in the recipient. How this is achieved remotely between strangers who have never met is certainly way beyond my experience of human interaction.

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Thanks for the additional explanation, history is so interesting when trying to put a reason to the ways things are done.

Cheers
 

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This is why great violins find their way to talented but impecunious young violinists.
But whereas great violins do make a difference, Leicas don't necessarily do the same.
 

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Perpetual optimist that I am, I'm patiently waiting for the day the Sydney Harbor Bridge comes up for sale on Ebay.

(You lot over in America may prefer the Brooklyn Bridge, which is fine by me - it just means fewer bidders for the Sydney steel-beam pile.)

My only concern is will it be offered as a Buy It Now, or will the sale start at $0.99??

I live in hope for a Or Best Offer button.The basement, not the ceiling, will then be my limit..

Disclaimer. My calendar was flipped back to April 1 before I wrote this.

My very best wishes to the OP and fond hope that a camera of some sort, any sort, and in working condition finds its way to him for his tenner.
 

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no, no, no....We have London Bridge!
You wanna buy it?
 

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no, no, no....We have London Bridge!
You wanna buy it?
No thanks, but do you want to trade??
Your bridge and a Summicron 50 f/2 for mine and you can have Scott Morrison too, gratis.
Boris Johnson I won't accept. If you really must flog him off, put him up separately on Ebay. Start at $0.01 and see what happens.
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you have to be told, then you may not understand the answer...
Have we hit rock bottom with this thread yet?? We certainly seem to be trying hard.
Let me move it on. To anyone thinking of letting the OP have a Leica for ten bucks, here's a better offer - I'll go twenty plus postage at my expense. No justifications, no self-justifying explanations, just hard cash. Paypal or a crisp new Aussie $20 by registered post.
You won't do better than that...
 

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This is why great violins find their way to talented but impecunious young violinists.
But whereas great violins do make a difference, Leicas don't necessarily do the same.
Do you know of any such instances, Matt and if so do they happen often enough to make this a less rare occurrence than get the ball on the wheel into the green slot at Las Vegas 5 times in a row

The only real likelihood of the great violin happening as described above occurring, as I see it, is on a pre-war film set with Jimmy Stewart and despite the 70F temperature in downtown L.A. snow is falling and there is a faint sound of reindeer bells. Does Pottersville change back to Bedford Falls at the same time?

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I think it's OK if the OP would ask for a long term loan like the way Hasselblad loan their cameras to Ansel Adams. The camera still belong to the original owner but the OP can use it as much or as long as he wants. He can not sell it.
 

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I think it's OK if the OP would ask for a long term loan like the way Hasselblad loan their cameras to Ansel Adams. The camera still belong to the original owner but the OP can use it as much or as long as he wants. He can not sell it.
I'll agree to those terms in an instant and sign in blood for a much lesser beast than a Leica. It is called a F5

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I'll agree to those terms in an instant and sign in blood for a much lesser beast than a Leica. It is called a F5

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Hey I am thinking about it! I have a like new F5 that I don't use now. I bought it in 2002 and I don't think I have more than 30 rolls thru it.
 

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It seems similar to a request for a Rolex watch for $10 or a USA Gibson guitar for $10 or Macintosh HiFi Receiver for $10 or Dormeuil Vanquish blazer for $10 when any number of people can gladly donate a working economy watch, import guitar, transistor radio or jacket to keep warm to a student or person in need.
 

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When I read of these "scores" on some super cheap thing found at a thrift store or an estate sale, I think about how many hours they spent finding nothing. If someone enjoys looking through all that stuff, great. I'd rather just pay someone what it's worth and spend my time doing other things. Note in that article "most valuable thing I’ve found in years of thrifting". Note YEARS of thrift shopping.
 

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I guess everyone has a job where you have to work to earn a living whether you like it or not. It's not worth while for me to spend time going estate sales just to find bargain and resell them. I can earn more money by simply working more hours at my regular job. However, I do spend a lot of time going to estate sales because I enjoy it just as much as I enjoy taking pictures which I do not show to anyone.
 

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Deals happen! I was once gifted a battered but serviceable Leica 3C + 50 Elmar by an older gentleman who knew exactly what it was and it's likely market value, but I think he simply enjoyed the act of giving more than he would have enjoyed shipping it off and eventually receiving a check for a couple of hundred dollars that he didn't need. More recently, I got a stunning deal on a Nikon SP from a stranger who certainly knew it's market value as he is a collector, but camera had an issue which he simply didn't wish to be bothered with.

Let's also not forget that people die every day, and sometimes they leave behind an overwhelming amount of "stuff" which needs to be cleared out in a hurry, and a Leica or two may not be one of the bigger fish.
 
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