Ultrafin Tips?

[waffles]

I’ve been thinking of switching from PQ film developers (Ilfosol, Ilfotec, TMax) to MQ film developers (ID-11, D-76.) But I really enjoy the convenience of liquid concentrates. I just recently learned about Tetenal Ultrafin; and I believe it’s correct to say that regular Ultrafin (*not* Ultrafin Plus or Ultrafin T-Plus) is an MQ-based liquid concentrate.

Does anyone else on here use Tetenal Ultrafin to develop slow-to-medium speed film? Is the concentrate a liquid like Rodinal or is it more of a syrup like HC-110? And how do the final results compare to Ilfosol/Ilfotec PQ developers? Thanks!

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Very good quality for slow and medium speed films. Try and use the more dilute options. I've found 1+24 works well.

 

[Doremus Scudder]

... Is the concentrate a liquid like Rodinal or is it more of a syrup like HC-110? And how do the final results compare to Ilfosol/Ilfotec PQ developers? Thanks!

Directions say that Ultrafin is a "universal" developer for black-and-white film. Dilutions range from 1+10 to 1+30.
[Note: I've corrected my earlier error in the interest of not spreading incorrect information - see below.]

It does appear to be an MQ developer from the MSDS.

Doremus

 

[miha]

Directions say that Ultrafin is a "universal" developer for both film and paper and that dilutions range from 1+10 to 1+30. I would imagine that the former is for paper.

It does appear to be an MQ developer from the MSDS.

Doremus

It's film only developer. B/W negative developer is written on the bottle.

 

[waffles]

Very good quality for slow and medium speed films. Try and use the more dilute options. I've found 1+24 works well.

Do you remember how viscous it is? Is it more like a syrup or a liquid?

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Do you remember how viscous it is? Is it more like a syrup or a liquid?

More of a liquid.

 

[Doremus Scudder]

It's film only developer. B/W negative developer is written on the bottle.

Indeed! My mistake. I was misled by the use of the work "universal." Sorry for any confusion.

Doremus

 

[waffles]

More of a liquid.

Thanks! What are its keeping properties? Do you use it as a one-shot, or for multiple rolls? There's not too munch information in the Spec Sheet available from Freestyle.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Thanks! What are its keeping properties? Do you use it as a one-shot, or for multiple rolls? There's not too munch information in the Spec Sheet available from Freestyle.

I still slowly using the bottle opened about 9 months ago. When the solution starts to discolour I'll no longer use it.

 

[macfred]

I still slowly using the bottle opened about 9 months ago. When the solution starts to discolour I'll no longer use it.

Ultrafin must be stored in a cool place, it will go bad relatively quickly, if it is yellow, everything is too late. Normally it is transparent with a violet shimmer, discoloration begins with a slightly yellowish tone.

 

[macfred]

... Do you use it as a one-shot, or for multiple rolls?

For me it's a 'one-shot' developer.

 

[macfred]

Ilford ∆400 in Tetenal Ultrafin 1+20

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Ilford ∆400 in Tetenal Ultrafin 1+20

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Good example. I wouldn't use Ultrafin at the stronger dilutions circa 1+10, can do some odd things to the grain levels.

 

[mohmad khatab]

AGFA SW
Deionized or distilled water 700 ml (52 ° C)
Calgon ............................... 0.5
Gram Metol .... ............................. 1
Gram is goofy. Sulfate ........................... 40 g
The headquarters of ................... ................... 6 g of
Sodium carbonate ..................... 21
Container. Or goofy. Bromide ............. 1 gram
Container. Or metabisulfite acids ...... 1.5 grams
Citric acid ........................... 0.5

Gram of water up to 1 liter 4>> 6 minutes @ 18 ° C ( stirring does not stop continuously at 40 rpm )

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Ultrafin must be stored in a cool place, it will go bad relatively quickly, if it is yellow, everything is too late. Normally it is transparent with a violet shimmer, discoloration begins with a slightly yellowish tone.

I have just been sorting through some developers, and note that my container of Ultrafin has become discoloured with the 'yellowish' tone you mention. I will approach with caution.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

After a quick test I can confirm that Ultrafin concentrate is pretty much exhausted at this colour:

 

[AgX]

The problem with Ultrafin is that there had been various compounds offered by Tetenal over the years bearing that name, at least two in parallel, being basically different developers:


Ultrafin und Aktivator , Ultrafin-Flüssig

Ultrafin-Flüssig , Ultrafin

Ultrafin Plus , Ultrafin SF Powder , Ultrafin Liquid

currently
Ultrafin , Ultrafin T-Plus

 

[macfred]

The problem with Ultrafin is that there had been various compounds offered by Tetenal over the years bearing that name, at least two in parallel, being basically different developers:


Ultrafin und Aktivator , Ultrafin-Flüssig

Ultrafin-Flüssig , Ultrafin

Ultrafin Plus , Ultrafin SF Powder , Ultrafin Liquid

currently
Ultrafin , Ultrafin T-Plus

I have two bottles of Ultrafin by Tetenal here - one bottle with 'Ultrafin flüssig' written on it and another with 'Ultrafin Liquid' - it's definitely the same stuff.

 

[AgX]

I did not mean to say, that actually all products were different, but at least those offered in parallel were to my understanding. But thank you for clarifying one case, as I was not even sure for these two seen the designation history.

But for instance Ultrafin Liquid and Ultrafin SF are from different classes of developers.

 

[macfred]

I only used the 'Flüssig' and the 'Liquid' so far - I never tried Ultrafin Plus or the replacement Ultrafin T Plus, which are similar to the TMax developer (Dimezon-Hydrochinon) and are reportted to have a longer shelf life.