Tossing Negatives After They've Been Scanned

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The idea with digital storage is that the coupling between the data and the medium is weak. I.e. you generally copy the data to a new medium once in a while; when you upgrade your NAS, you don't put the old one in a shed with the data on it and start over with no data on your new NAS. You take your data with you to the new medium. Much of the argumentation against the long-term viability of digital data ignores (often willfully, I suspect) the way we use these data in practice.

Data transport as hardware upgrades is nice in theory.
  • How did folks migrate ST-506 harddrive data to PC with EISA harddrive, when it was a case of old-computer-to-new computer upgrading? the commonality of transfer media?
  • And then there is the reality of the time involved in transferring terrabytes of data from old to new hardware, if one does not own a shared storage device like NAS? Or when one is changing technology, for example between Apple and Microsoft computers?

    Will heirs bother to move your data after you have passed, or will the data simply be lost to history...at least negs can get passed onward readily.
 
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Negatives can be a burden.
Curated selection of negatives, with "meta data" scribbled - another story.
but in the end how many really relevant snaps has one person taken in their life?
 

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Data transport as hardware upgrades is nice in theory.
  • How did folks migrate ST-506 harddrive data to PC with EISA harddrive, when it was a case of old-computer-to-new computer upgrading? the commonality of transfer media?
  • And then there is the reality of the time involved in transferring terrabytes of data from old to new hardware, if one does not own a shared storage device like NAS? Of when one is changing between Apple and Microsoft computers?
    Will heirs bother to move your data after you have passed, or will the data simply be lost to history...at least negs can get passed onward readily.

Every computer I've owned has shared at least one removeable media technology with its predecessor. Sometimes with 2 or 3 generations of predecessors. Until my most recent purchase, every computer except for the two I purchased in the early 90s were built by me, so that commonality was by design, but that commonality mostly existed in off-the-shelf PCs as well. Most of the time, however, the transfer took the form of me moving the data drive from one PC to the next during the build process. Data transfer was never a problem.

I've not done such transfers between Apple and Microsoft, but I've done plenty between Microsoft and Linux (either direction). To ensure there are no issues, I always format removeable drives using NTFS since I know Linux can read/write to that filesystem. I'm sure there are methods of doing the same with Apple. Therefore, an external 5tb hard drive will make the task simple.

My heirs are far more likely to know how to manage data than to get negatives printed or scanned. Currently there may be 2 shops in the entire DC metro region (going out as far 50 miles) that can make prints from negatives. But my kids already move files from computer to computer with USB drives, CD, or the network.

Now, the real question is whether or not these processes can last past 2 or 3 generations. My Generation, GenX, is probably the first to have significant digital archives of personal files. Our kids might know how to manage that, but not enough time has passed to know if our grandkids or great grandkids will follow suit. But, as I said above, it's no more likely they'll know what to do with a bunch of negatives. And if they did, would there be services available to get those negatives scanned or printed in 50+ years?

Frankly, I think only prints will be truly viable long-term. People will forget to back up grandpa's treasure trove of digital images, or they'll take one look at the binder full of negatives and shrug their shoulders, but they'll be able to flip through photo albums, portfolios, or gaze at frame pictures handed down by heirs.

I've started printing my favorite non-family "art" shots in 8x10 format and storing them in a portfolio. Less effort than framing them all and finding space on a wall, but it leaves a physical image people can enjoy (or not).

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But, as I said above, it's no more likely they'll know what to do with a bunch of negatives. And if they did, would there be services available to get those negatives scanned or printed in 50+ years?
The nice thing about negatives, and more particularly slides, is no technology is needed to view them aside from holding them to the light.

I'm certain that is 50 years there will be some way of digitizing film images, even if it's taking a photos of them.
 

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I've started printing my favorite non-family "art" shots in 8x10 format and storing them in a portfolio. Less effort than framing them all and finding space on a wall, but it leaves a physical image people can enjoy (or not).

Pretty much what I do too.

I have albums of photos handed down by my grandparents, all perfectly good to look at - no negatives to be found anywhere.
People (apart from particularly committed hobbyists) just don't keep them.

Anything worth keeping gets printed, whether from a negative or from a cellphone.
 

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I'm certain that is 50 years there will be some way of digitizing film images, even if it's taking a photos of them.

Yes, but will the people holding the negatives know about such things or have a local resource to seek help from?

When I moved to the DC metro area in the late 90s there were multiple photography store chains in the region with several physical locations each and 1hr photo kiosks everywhere. Fast forward to 2025 and there are maybe 3 photography stores in the region, the nearest being 45min from me. Despite the techniques being known and available, I suspect folks not actively pursuing photography will have the awareness to seek out those services.

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Yes, but will the people holding the negatives know about such things or have a local resource to seek help from?

The internet? if someone wants to find a way to get the images printed, they will.

It's no different than 50 year old computer technology now, if I had a file that was created in Appleworks on an Apple IIe and wanted to see what it was now I'd start searching for a way to do it. If I didn't care what was on that 5" floppy disk it would go to landfill.

If someone has interest and desire to read media (be it a negative or digital file) they will make an effort to do so and gather whatever resources they need to make it happen. I can't see that changing in the future.
 
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With Eastman producing cheap film like Colocolor 100 and 200, cheap one hour development and printing services will again become available producing 4x6"prints for your photo albums and to give to relatives. So they will be available to print your old negatives as well.
 
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When I moved to New Jersey and retired, I went through my negatives and realized I really didn't want to look at them because all the good ones were printed way back and those were in photo albums. Plus you can't really tell from negatives what you're looking at for most people or how good the picture is. If I don't want to do look at them, certainly my heirs aren't going to waste their time. So I just threw them out.
 
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