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TMAX400 120 watermark defect - current status?

So is anyone going to apologize to RattyMouse for besmirching his name?
 
YAAL joined us in 2010 but just recently went directly to the thread he needed for posting. This problem has been known for several years. It is a shame that he did not check the literature for possible problems, and a shame that he, a professional, did not hear of this problem in advance.

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Agreed. Time to move on.....a problem has happened, it has been well publicised, users have learned a lesson (double check everything before important assignments), and no doubt Kodak has learned a lesson too. If this guy chooses not to trust Kodak anymore, at least there are still other choices of materials....attacking Kodak would cost a lot of time and money and, if their product liability exclusions were legally invalid, I'm sure that these would have been tested in court years ago.
 
I was on that PM too, I have no idea why. I've only shot one roll of T Max in that time and it was fine. My combination of choice is Delta 100 in Xtol anyway, I'm not a fan of Tmax.
 
I trust Kodak when they say it's fixed. I've bought a lot of TMY-2 . Filled my free freezer space. I love the stuff. I got lucky. Never had a problem. I try to support the companies that make these kind of products. The liability limit has always been stated on the carton. The same was true when Kodak developed film. Stuff happens. Kodak made it as right as could be.
 
mshchem said:
...The liability limit has always been stated on the carton...
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Since at least since my first rolls of 620 Verichrome Pan in a Brownie around 1960. Ron probably knows how many decades it was there before that. Failure to perform due diligence is neither an emergency nor the basis for a class action.
 
Sal Santamaura said:
Ron probably knows how many decades it was there before that.
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I don't think Ron is quite that old.
The faith shown here in the effectiveness of the liability limit language on the box may be somewhat "generous". You probably don't want to go down the "rabbit hole" of a review of the US case law.
 
Hey I'm not going to get into a legal discussion. I have enough problems trying to reset my microwave clock for daylight savings time
 
If I remember correctly Kodak was the first photographic company, glass plates and film, to back up their products long, long before any other company did.
 
BrianShaw said:
So is anyone going to apologize to RattyMouse for besmirching his name?
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The irony is that RattyMouse had a totally valid reason to be upset.
It was the litany of his over-the-top responses that drew so much dislike.
 
Should it not be sufficient to check the Kodak Alaris site or any leaflet (some may remember leaflets in film boxes...) ?
In any case they veiled the issue.

Spreading lists of affected batches and comments on the issue via the grape vine is no buyer information to my understanding.
 
Unless one is online and in touch with Photography Message Boards / Facebook &c there is not a lot of information on the problem. Makes me wonder if stores tell their customers. One of the problems yaal had was that his replacement film was also bad. Its enough to make anybody kind of cranky
 
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