Tim Rudman toning book

[pentaxuser]

Is there a free PDF of Worobiek's book on the web?

Several Brian. All look about as safe as Indiana J's Temple of Doom.

 

[mshchem]

I would love to get a copy of this book. I could put it with the other 300 books I have on darkroom work. It would be nice to see Mr. Rudman be able to justify another edition, just to drive the price of used copies into the ground.

I heard on NPR tonight that some convenience store in Puerto Rico moved the price of D cell batteries up to $5 a piece (and they are probably those really shi**y ones that come with TV remote controls).

People that violate copyrights should go to jail.

 

[tezzasmall]

Obviously all the files are available to do a reprint, so what with the ability to have a single copy of something 'printed on demand' now a days, couldn't this be an option, even if the book costs a little more than the original cover price? I'm sure a lot of people would be happy to go this route.

Terry S

 

[MattKing]

Obviously all the files are available to do a reprint, so what with the ability to have a single copy of something 'printed on demand' now a days, couldn't this be an option, even if the book costs a little more than the original cover price? I'm sure a lot of people would be happy to go this route.

Terry S

IIRC, Mr. Rudman was unwilling to compromise on the reproduction quality, so less expensive means of publication were not acceptable.
This makes a fair amount of sense, when you consider that the book is intended to assist those who wish to adjust and control the colour of one's prints, and accomplishes that by, among other things, illustrating the effects of various choices.

 

[darinwc]

How is this book different from any of the other toning books?

 

[pentaxuser]

How is this book different from any of the other toning books?

Given the price of Tim's book I can say that Tony's one is a lot cheaper and isn't bad for its price but if there are others out there that you know of it might help the OP if you can say what they are. I'd certainly take a look at any you mention

Thanks

pentaxuser

 

[LarsAC]

I have a copy and I am not going to part with it until I have mastered all the methods and details described in it - which will probably take decades at least.

I also bought copies of the books by Worobiec (Beyond monochrome, Toning and Handcoloring Photographs) and like them as well. While they are not as complete as Tim's books, especially the latter shows a number of examples especially for combined toning approaches. There are fewer recipes and details, but given the used prices for Worobiec's books, this may be a good start into the matter as well.

Lars

 

[Craig75]

its been eons since i looked through my copy but from memory most of it is showing you stepwedges in different toners and combinations of toners and then a typically beautiful photo.

Unlike the lith book I dont think there is anything in it you couldnt work out toning wedges and using google yourself.

i could be wrong tho...

 

[RalphLambrecht]

wow

The prices I see for the book are not simply ridiculous, they are insane.

knowledge and experience has its price.It's a fantastic book.

 

[mfagan]

As D.A.G. mentioned in post 32, libraries are a good source. Not necessarily because they have a copy (very few do I learned), but because if they have an interlibrary loan program, they can borrow it for you from another library. I paid $5.00 (admin and postal expenses, I presume) and had it in less than a week. Never having seen one, I found it so well done that I’ll probably buy one.

 

[esearing]

Obviously all the files are available to do a reprint, so what with the ability to have a single copy of something 'printed on demand' now a days, couldn't this be an option, even if the book costs a little more than the original cover price? I'm sure a lot of people would be happy to go this route.

I wrote to Mr Rudman recently inquiring if he would consider re-releasing his book in an electronic format. He doesn't seem interested so it is up to the next generation to do the tests on modern papers and publish their results either for sale or free. Note there are other books that have some of his toning techniques such as the Master Printing Course which sells for under $20 usually. Eddie Ephrams also has a couple of books with various toning formulas and examples.

 

[Rick A]

Spotted on Amazon this morning... not asking too awfully much......
$3,214.59
+ $3.99 shipping + $0.00 estimated tax

Used - Acceptable
Item is in Acceptable condition only.

• Arrives between January 8-12.
• Ships from TX, United States.
• Shipping rates and return policy.

Books In Demand
5 out of 5 stars 99% positive over the past 12 months. (19,387 total ratings)

 

[BrianShaw]

You should buy it to flip!

 

[pentaxuser]

The gap between the OP's $20 as a reasonable price and the apparent latest market price grows slightly

pentaxuser

 

[Rick A]

You should buy it to flip!

I have my copy already, but if someone were to offer somewhere close to this I could be persuaded to sell.

 

[Bob Carnie]

I wrote to Mr Rudman recently inquiring if he would consider re-releasing his book in an electronic format. He doesn't seem interested so it is up to the next generation to do the tests on modern papers and publish their results either for sale or free. Note there are other books that have some of his toning techniques such as the Master Printing Course which sells for under $20 usually. Eddie Ephrams also has a couple of books with various toning formulas and examples.

Eddie Ephrams books are excellent I have two of them and refer to them when toning.

 

[sepiareverb]

I will gladly sell mine for half that amazon price.

 

[darkroommike]

knowledge and experience has its price.It's a fantastic book.

I don't think Tim makes any money from the resale of these books at the now astronomical prices. Buying a used or remaindered book does nothing for the author.

 

[Skiver101]

I see the prices that this book is being offered at, but I can't seem to find any evidence of actual transactions at these prices.
Maybe it's down to my poor searching skills, privacy, or, as I suspect, these quotes are just a modern-day 'myth' that are floating around.
I too have a copy of this book in reasonable condition, and it has served me well. Moving toward a digital workflow, I would now be happy to trade it for a Canon 5d Mk i body in reasonable condition.
But somehow I daren't ask; as I fear that may be an ask too far...Who knows ? But in the meantime; the book sits forlorn and unused.

JP

 

[gijsbert]

I'm interesting in Tim's Toning book but I am wondering how applicable it is to current papers?
I recently bought Tim's Lith printing course book, which is very nice but a lot of the examples are with (long) discontinued papers. The course is still great and very inspiring but a lot of the actual lith looks in the book seem hard to recreate without those papers. Would the toning book give a similar experience?

 

[RalphLambrecht]

Does anyone know if there's a reprint for this book? The book used to cost around $29. Prices on Amazon now and eBay is just ridiculous

Try to contact the author.He is selling self-published reprints.

 

[mshchem]

I'm interesting in Tim's Toning book but I am wondering how applicable it is to current papers?
I recently bought Tim's Lith printing course book, which is very nice but a lot of the examples are with (long) discontinued papers. The course is still great and very inspiring but a lot of the actual lith looks in the book seem hard to recreate without those papers. Would the toning book give a similar experience?

It's relevant. I'm not sure I would pay the insane prices for used copies. The technical processes of multiple toning etc, still useful.

 

[Arthurwg]

The dollar is dead, long live the hundred dollar.