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I've just returned from a trip in Japan, where I saw more film and film cameras being used in 3 weeks than in the last 12 months here. So I don't think we're going to see the last of it yet.
 

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I've just returned from a trip in Japan, where I saw more film and film cameras being used in 3 weeks than in the last 12 months here. So I don't think we're going to see the last of it yet.

It's quite interesting. For a country that produces or develops the bulk majority of digital cameras and digital technology (Nikon/Canon/Sony/Pentax/Panasonic/Olympus), it has the biggest market for film, Leicas & Hasselblad of anywhere in the world by a HUGE proportion. You should see some of the camera stores in Tokyo or in Hong Kong. Woah!

In stark contrast, about the only decent film i can find in Sydney retail is $35 a roll 35mm Velvia at one of the better camera stores.
 

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In stark contrast, about the only decent film i can find in Sydney retail is $35 a roll 35mm Velvia at one of the better camera stores.
Stone the crows, I'm paying the equivalent of AUS $8.00 for a 36-exp Velvia 50, $7.38 in bulk, and that's post paid.
 

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I've not bought ANY film here in retail Australia. Except two boxes of 4x5" tech pan from Borge (had just been sitting there for a couple of years unsold- last TP production :tongue:) and 23 rolls of Kodachrome 200 (2007 expiry) from a guy in Canberra. His loss...
There are some good ebay sellers around and i have used those but now i just order film from BH Photo Video or Freestyle - and macodirect.
The Australian dollar is very strong at the moment which helps a great deal.

No joke, $35 AU for a 35mm Velvia. Maybe it was $34.95.

If you want the name of the store, send me a PM. They are otherwise very helpful people there and i have a good relationship with that store from when i was working for Canon.
 

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I think "$35 a roll" for 35mm Velvia is a typo, no???

Unfortunately, it isn't. What dealers are doing with slide film in Australia is nothing short of highway robbery! All of it: Astia and Provia have the same problem.

I'd recommend anyone looking for slide film to go online to ebay or B&H and get your film there: the local dealers do not deserve ANY support for this sad joke.

No amount of "market-speak" can explain the mark-up that slidefilm is being subjected to in this country. All in the name of the almighty "stock control".

Load of nonsense. It's beyond the joke: it's sad.
 

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Prices really are that high in Australia. Believe what you see.

Some of the kitsch camera stores on the high street in Brisbane are selling Lomo LC-A cameras for over $500 and re branded Chinese films for nearly $20
 

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Vanbar's price for Velvia 135-36 is AU$24.98 - not as outrageous but still ridiculous compared with overseas prices. They don't seem to have LOMO cameras which IMHO are grossly over-priced worldwide, but they do have Holgas for high but not extra-terrestrial prices - a Holga 120N is AU$44.00 and a 120WPC is AU$88.00. I recently bought a 120WPC from Hong Kong for about AU$48.00.
 

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Pass...

For me the alternative to film is a pen and paper....

I'm going to setup an online film store. Discounts for APUG people
Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it!
 

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I remember a few years back when I visited the Galapagos Islands. Can't remember which island we stayed on, but since Ecuadorian have limited money, they don't shoot much with digital cameras. First off, gear need to shoot and process digital photos are very expensive and also, the only place that processed photos only had a 35mm C-41 processor and a machine that printed 4x6 prints. I'm going to assume that it's the same for other third world countries. I think film has it's place in our world and some photographers can't or won't fall into the digital upgrade trap. Please keep in mind that this is only my observation.
 
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I think digital photography is well suited for commercial work. I hate to say this, but commercial photography is basically disposable. Who needs to waste film to shoot pictures of consumer goods on a piece of film? It's probably better to shoot commercial shots on a memory chip then erase it after it's served it's purpose. Film photography is going to be a fine art process like etching or lithography. This is OK because it makes film work a little more precious. Film is going to be fine dining is a fast food world.
 

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There are too many levels of distribution here in Australia. I enquired about making a big buy from a distributor and i was still going to pay 2x the USA bought+delivered price.

I'm going to setup an online film store. Discounts for APUG people :smile:

I agreee with Kryzs. Do it.

I have to admit that I have often thought about what would be required to set up such a business. The biggest problem would be sourcing the product, as you would have to bypass the current wholesalers, distributors. You simply would have to become a grey importer.

Its funny, I can buy 1 packet of 100 sheets of Ilford RC 8x10 paper, pay 35 pounds in shipping (From AG in the UK) AND still come out in front compared to buying from a local shop, which is a shame. I really want to buy local (I still do for small amounts, as its convinience), but its making it hard.
 
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There are too many levels of distribution here in Australia. I enquired about making a big buy from a distributor and i was still going to pay 2x the USA bought+delivered price.

I'm going to setup an online film store. Discounts for APUG people :smile:


Yeeeeesss! Ka-ching, ka-ching! Go for it!
Line up, line up, form and orderly queue. :tongue:
 

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The other way is to actually start an APUG co-operative. Try and work in with someone like AG photo (at least for now while the UK pound is weak) and do a bulk order every so often. The problem then is as Aust is such a vast place that someone would need to do the bulk order then distribute to others aust wide, which adds additional postage,etc,etc. Just an idea (& now we are so far off topic, that its not funny........)
 
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