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His digital Canon might have face detection, but I can detect a horse's backside without my camera's help.
 

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Dead? Well maybe all of his film just expired :smile:
 

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The writer is not the smartest person around, and yes, this is clearly a thinly-veiled paid promotion which has not been declared as such, however my reading is that he is being slightly sarcastic about film being dead.
 

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the ceo of kodak pretty much said the same thing a few years ago ..
and in a lot of ways it is true, film is dead compared to a few years ago.

who cares ?
i don't ...
 

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:rolleyes: Hmmmmm......, a "33mm camera"?:D


Man! I'm so glad mine are slightly larger! :tongue:
 

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Fortunately Geelong is not the world, and there are nearly forty one thousand members of site who would disagree with this imbecile, plus the major film manufacturers just for openers, and the other millions of film users worldwide.
 

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This guy should do his investigations better: the DSLR is almost dead. No doubt about that :D

Proof:
Lets losely divide the digital market into 2 groups:

prosumers and full pro's.

The prosumer will let loose DSLR because
- Expensive
- only 4X6 prints are of interest
- Heavy and clumsy
- More hardware makes the pictures not better

This group will split in digital users
either Point and Shoot next generation
either HD Video camera capture

on the other hand

Professionals will switch to EVIL technology
=(Electronic Viewfinder Interchangeable Lenses)

- better lens design possible
- lighter
- cheaper
- better yield of sensors

or:
DSLR R.I.P

-m-
 

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And remember this: its only a short jump from "Live Face Detection" to "Live Moonrise Over Hernandez" detection. Then it wont just be film that's dead...

Carey Bird

Cracking line, made me laugh out loud...

Made me ponder the Street version. HCB detection, "Never take your hands out of your pockets with new HCB Detection, this automatically selects interesting subjects as you wander with the camera hanging about your neck. beeps to tell you stop while it waits for the "decisive moment". capturing it in digital brilliance and auto-photoshops it to look like it was taken 70 years ago on film. Then beeps again to tell you to move on, until your next magical moment of capturing the streets is announced by your new HCB friend with a beep. Street photography never has been simpler" :D
 

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This reminds me of the coolscan vs epson v500 review I found, showing the V500 matching the coolscan's resolution when downsampled to 4000 dpi (coolscan's top scanning res), it was such crap I got angry and nearly choked.

It was so fabricated.. a quick copy and paste into photoshop, reduce the image size by 3x, then back up again using the bicubic filters showed 0 loss of resolution/sharpness.

Some of these things just outright disgust me, like Canon's new 9000F film scanner it apparently has "been designed with film-faithful photographers in mind", yet they advertise it with a 9600 dpi optical resolution (fraudulent lies - same fraudulent lies by all flatbed manufacturers, that is sensor resolution, not optical resolution, they cbf putting in $20 of optics to even achieve a third of that), the scanner has not been designed with film-faithful photographers in mind, it has been designed by marketing to have higher numbers than the epsons, and higher numbers than the plustek, the price point is at or just below the plusteks, which sickens me, as the plustek is at least a capable film scanner, and this is designed to take away their market share.
 

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Hi guys,
I found this article in the latest edition of the Geelong Business News.

This has to be one of the most poorly-worded, weasel-word-loaded "articles" I've ever read in my life. I love how fictitious logical arguments are constructed out of thin air, such as how "complete automation, auto-everything" is responsible for enabling "creativity" and "control".

Not to mention fictitious camera systems (33mm film, anybody?)

Luckily this was in the Geelong times, and not the New York times... I would love to write a rebuttal to this argument, if given the chance :tongue:
 

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His digital Canon might have face detection, but I can detect a horse's backside without my camera's help.

This has to be right up there with the late, great Flotsam's "That is called grain. Its supposed to be there." line. Now I need to go get some paper towels so I can wipe the coffee off my keyboard and monitor! :D

Ash
 

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Well, CDs have been around for over 20 years, yet there are still people have an interest in buying music on vinyl. Some vinyl fans are kids under 20 are rediscovering the quality if analog music. It will be the same for photography.

That's my story exactly, except I'm 26. :-(
 

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Fast forward to 2050:

"New 4D Holographic hipperrealistic levitating camera".
Takes any shot it wants, floats wherever it wants. Has got Super Ansel, Evans, HCB II, Weegee and Time travel modes. This way you won't miss anything from the past, present or future.
Includes the new aromatic function. This adds a new channel to the image and you will be able to experiment forever those wonderful aromas. Whether it's a flower or a horse shite.
Because of it's advanced smart auto modes, You can throw yourself to the garbage, because you won't be needed and you are obsolete. Package Includes photographer wiping software.
 

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"I'm wondering how the likes of Doisneau and HCB were able to take the pictures they did without a digi/autofacedetcting/supermultipleautofucus/33millimeters automatic camera
Probably they were secret agents and their leicas/rolleiflexs had a digital sensor inside......."

This could be the next article about the story of photography written by our great digital/journalist.....
 

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He's wrong, it's not.

You could write the same article again in 3 months when the next "best" digital camera comes out :rolleyes:

Anyway, I'm going out to use my film camera now.
 

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Just another thought... Yesterday, I was talking to the photography teacher at the college where I work.

His class teaches film photography for the first half of the course then goes on to digital for the remainder of the semester. He was telling me about how the students just can't seem to cope with the darkroom. He was going on about the numbers of kids who complained about their film coming out all black or all clear and just generally F-ed up.

I said to him, "You know what you ought to do? You should change your curriculum so that 'Photography 101' is 100% film then make it a prerequisite for all other photography classes whether they teach digital or not."

He laughed at me and said, "I've already done that. It starts next semester!"

:D
 

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I've gotten the "why are you still using film" question a couple times. I usually just say "because I can" and leave it at that. When I add up all the "obsolete" technologies floating around our house, it's pretty amazing.

- We have a microwave but usually cook on the stove (I first learned to cook over an open campfire, in the Boy Scouts); I have a full set of cookware and I still make pancakes from scratch (no Bisquick here!).

- We still play vinyl and cassette tapes, even though we have iPods and CDs as well (we didn't feel like rebuilding extensive music collections from scratch every ten years).

- There are even several acoustic musical instruments here: violins, a guitar, some percussion (even though I have Apple's Garage Band on my Mac, I never use it).

There is one d*****l camera here, and about 25 film cameras altogether.

However, I have to admit I no longer use floppy disks! Maybe he should write an article about that.
 

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Just another thought... Yesterday, I was talking to the photography teacher at the college where I work.

His class teaches film photography for the first half of the course then goes on to digital for the remainder of the semester. He was telling me about how the students just can't seem to cope with the darkroom. He was going on about the numbers of kids who complained about their film coming out all black or all clear and just generally F-ed up.

I said to him, "You know what you ought to do? You should change your curriculum so that 'Photography 101' is 100% film then make it a prerequisite for all other photography classes whether they teach digital or not."

He laughed at me and said, "I've already done that. It starts next semester!"

:D

Good, such classes are great. I took one during summer semester. I had everything setup for my darkroom but wanted to take a class before I wasted any materials. I have yet to have a bad roll.
 

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The whole thing reads like an ad. If it is in fact an ad- so what. If its not, and its trying to be pawned off as legit accounting of how this Canon EOS camera revolutionized his ability to create...good for him, im still gonna spend my money and support film with as much $ as I can spare!

rthomas- I second the floppy article...he he
 
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I've gotten the "why are you still using film" question a couple times. I usually just say "because I can" and leave it at that. When I add up all the "obsolete" technologies floating around our house, it's pretty amazing.

- We have a microwave but usually cook on the stove (I first learned to cook over an open campfire, in the Boy Scouts); I have a full set of cookware and I still make pancakes from scratch (no Bisquick here!).

- We still play vinyl and cassette tapes, even though we have iPods and CDs as well (we didn't feel like rebuilding extensive music collections from scratch every ten years).

- There are even several acoustic musical instruments here: violins, a guitar, some percussion (even though I have Apple's Garage Band on my Mac, I never use it).

There is one d*****l camera here, and about 25 film cameras altogether.

However, I have to admit I no longer use floppy disks! Maybe he should write an article about that.

I have even seen barbeques here in Stockholm. I mean, if we are talking obsolete cooking!
 

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I've gotten the "why are you still using film" question a couple times. I usually just say "because I can" and leave it at that.
When my older son was 13 he started taking lessons with one of the top classical saxophone professors in the US. The professor asked me which digital camera I used, and I told him I used film. When he asked in a slightly incredulous way why I used film, I asked him what kind of MIDI (musical instrument digital interface) saxophone controller he played.

See: http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/KeyboardsDMI/Product/Enlarged/WX5BK_Enlarged.JPG

He took my point.

Lee
 
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