While this is certainly true, the reference to inkjet printers helps provide context and makes it clear that the factors that are behind the rise in price for darkroom paper aren't exclusive to the darkroom paper market.
....we're still in the analog place.....
While this is certainly true, the reference to inkjet printers helps provide context and makes it clear that the factors that are behind the rise in price for darkroom paper aren't exclusive to the darkroom paper market.
This is a large part of the issue; paper has just gotten very expensive. A large part of the reason is that it's an energy-intensive product to manufacture. Energy ain't cheap no more.Of course, even raw book paper has gone up quite a bit in the past several years.
You mention Photrio being a large forum, but I think it is still a very small representation of the overall number of photographers. I imagine there are probably still quite a few people doing darkroom printing, relatively speaking. Keep in mind, also, that many schools still have darkrooms and film photography and darkroom printing classes.
That might well be the case in Texas and the U.S. in general but I see no or little evidence of this in the U.K. Harman tried to set up a grid for communal darkrooms which could be used but that seems to have gone by the wayside due, I suspect to there being so few of such darkrooms and no sign of it increasing
Of course it may be that in matters analogue it is largely the U.S. that sustains b&w darkroom paper
This is a large part of the issue; paper has just gotten very expensive. A large part of the reason is that it's an energy-intensive product to manufacture. Energy ain't cheap no more.
The question is not how the cost of energy compares globally, it's how it develops over time. The global differences are relevant only if you want to account for real production locations. Even then, a discussion about price or cost in the past vs. now is still about historical developments more so than about geographic differences.Energy isn't as expensive in North America as Europe. And America is a big wood and paper manufacturer, as Canada is. German electricity is three times the cost as the US.
The question is not how the cost of energy compares globally, it's how it develops over time. The global differences are relevant only if you want to account for real production locations. Even then, a discussion about price or cost in the past vs. now is still about historical developments more so than about geographic differences.
This is a large part of the issue; paper has just gotten very expensive. A large part of the reason is that it's an energy-intensive product to manufacture. Energy ain't cheap no more.
While this is certainly true, the reference to inkjet printers helps provide context and makes it clear that the factors that are behind the rise in price for darkroom paper aren't exclusive to the darkroom paper market.
This is a large part of the issue; paper has just gotten very expensive. A large part of the reason is that it's an energy-intensive product to manufacture. Energy ain't cheap no more.
Indeed, they don't anymore. They used to*, but stopped probably around 15 years ago. They now purchase the paper base from the company virtually every manufacturer buy from. I don't think Kodak is in their supply chain.So you know what is going on with Fuji and color paper. Does Fuji manufacter the resin coated paper base? I would be surprised if they do today
Indeed, they don't anymore. They used to*, but stopped probably around 15 years ago. They now purchase the paper base from the company virtually every manufacturer buy from. I don't think Kodak is in their supply chain.
*To clarify, it depends a bit on how you define 'manufacture'. AFAIK Fuji never actually made the actual paper base from cellulose fiber in their European manufacturing plants. They did do the PE-lining in-house. I think that's what they stopped doing several years ago.
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