I got lucky like you. I just sold it about a month ago and hated to do it but I got $1800 for it. It was hard to let that kind of money sit around getting little use. I used some of the money to buy this 2.8C and I also have a 500C/M a Medalist II and a Autocord that I just repaired the frozen focus lever on. I think the Autocord is going to give the Rollei a run for it's money. I posted a test print from it in the Autocord thread.How did you swing that one!?
Did you buy a 2.8 xenotar for $75? If it was only the separation then $350 was a fair price. Without lens issues but needing a shutter CLA they go for over $500.
I get the impression most people refer to fleabay as a barometer of value, and that's very misleading, IMO.
All Rollei I have serviced disassemble basically the same.It's the removing the elements from the housing that I don't know how to do yet. If anybody has done this before I would appreciate some instructions.
All Rollei I have serviced disassemble basically the same.
Download this service manual from my google drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yavVANy-hVm4V6Ug5RuqjR2rTf4-xL-l/view?usp=sharing
Use the 2.8E or 2.8F instructions as your guide.
Remove the view hood and check the mirror as it can be the source of what you are seeing in the view lens.
To remove the front cover lift up the leatherette, remove it, then remove the 6 screws holding the face to the front frame.
Loosen the set screw for the view lens then unscrew the view lens from the front frame. Infinity focus will have to be reestablished with the taking lens focused at the film plane on reassembly.
The front cell of the taking lens unscrews from the shutter and the rear cell should unscrew from the rear through the image box area (camera back opening).
Once the cells are removed from the shutter the retaining ring for the elements unscrew from the cell barrels and may be secured with a clear thread locker that dissolves with acetone. The rear cell retaining ring will likely be on the shutter side of the cell barrel.
The front plate has to be removed to remove the shutter which requires resetting the parallex adjustment for the view mirror on reassembly.
I have had the lenses out but didn't see how the individual cells came apart and didn't want to attempt it since I have a 30 day return and didn't want to void that. I would love to keep the camera because of the cosmetic condition. The slow speeds are way off so the shutter needs service but I would be wiling to get a $200 CLA if I can clean up the lenses. Can you determine from the picture if it's fungus or separation? The camera store said it was separation which no one seems to fix anymore so I am hoping it's fungus since that can be removed in most cases. I shot a roll and they came out terrible but with the viewing lens like it is I had a difficult time focusing even with a loop and everything was washed out and soft.
Buying a nice working Rolleiflex for $75 is a very fortunate outlier, good for you Paul. I paid that near 40 years ago for a Rolleicord V, an excellent value then and now.
Does anybody know how the cells come apart? Are they cemented on the Xenotar?
First off a Rollei does not have a bellows. The rear cell has a longish housing tube that slides through the light block as shown in post 38 photos. The complete lens/shutter assembly has to be removed to replace/repair that light block.
The shutter is a common Synchro Cmpur only modified with the face plate, aperture lever and shutter cocking lever changed. If you have serviced Compur 00 shutters in the past then removing it from the camera and reinstalling it will be harder than a full tear down CLA on the shutter. The lens carrier item 149 on pdf page 153 is attached to the focusing arms with 4 screws and has shims between the carrier and arms and cover frame item 158 pdf page 155. The shims are items 150 through 154 pdf page 155 and 155 L, M, N, P, Q depending on what was needed to get exact register and their positions are important.
How much of the light seal tube is accessible with the lens at infinity/fully retracted? You might be able to unscrew it and the rear cell if enough is gripable at infinity. The wind mechanism is more complicated and operates best with NO oil or grease. The focus mechanism is a rod that goes through machined holes in the body, has two cams on each end with a spacer between them, and engage the arms which have a spring loaded guide at the rear. Not overly complicated but precise. A fair amount of grease was used on the shaft and cams. The side plates have to be removed to access the wind and focus mechanisms.
I do not know how to disassemble the view lens, likely set screws or pins in the barrel. Post pictures of it out of the camera and the sides with holes or similar.
Black yarn or black velvet, small amount of glue on the rim where it sits but the yarn or velvet should be soft and pliable.
Where? specify part number.This Rollei model does have a bellows.
The part is no longer made so its fix the old one. My black velvet is in storage and won't be out for a while or I'd send you a piece.Do you think it might work and do you know how much the part might cost?
In the manual I linked to its called Light Seal Tube, item 156 pdf page 153, the second part is called Housing Ring, item 159.
The part is no longer made so its fix the old one. My black velvet is in storage and won't be out for a while or I'd send you a piece.
I have repaired that light seal with black velvet and yarn will work. Any glue should be at the base of the ring with the yarn or velvet just touching it.
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