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Italian photographers seem to be kind of a blind spot. Haven't seen many mentioned on Photrio. They're certainly missing in my photographic culture. I know of Guido Guidi, but hove no books of his, and have one book of essays by Luigi Ghirri. Even though I know there always has been a strong 20th century photographic, my knowledge essentially stops there. Except for one book, which happens to be one of my favorite in my collection.

It's a book of 400 photographs by Gianni Berengo Gardin, published by Actes Sud. Not in love with the format—and I do wish someone here could point me to an available edition of another book of his photos, if there are any—, but really love the style.

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Few more by Gardin from the Italiani series.

These are from the web. The reproductions in the book are of OK quality, but very contrasty, and the whole (400 photos in small format) feels really cramped. I'd really love to find a modern, better printed edition.

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Italian photographers seem to be kind of a blind spot. Haven't seen many mentioned on Photrio. They're certainly missing in my photographic culture. I know of Guido Guidi, but hove no books of his, and have one book of essays by Luigi Ghirri. Even though I know there always has been a strong 20th century photographic, my knowledge essentially stops there. Except for one book, which happens to be one of my favorite in my collection.

It's a book of 400 photographs by Gianni Berengo Gardin, published by Actes Sud. Not in love with the format—and I do wish someone here could point me to an available edition of another book of his photos, if there are any—, but really love the style.

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Really interesting. Thanks for raising this. You are right, but I can’t think why it would be a blind spot, especially for us Europeans. I have a feeling there’s a blind spot about Italian engineering too.
 

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Our Fiat 500 means that my wife and I appreciate Italian engineering, as does my experience with Durst photographic equipment :smile:.
Perhaps many people think first of Italian cinematography, not Italian still photography.
 

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Our Fiat 500 means that my wife and I appreciate Italian engineering

From May to November, my main ride around town is a Vespa, so I know what you mean.

Perhaps many people think first of Italian cinematography, not Italian still photography.

Indeed, as far as the arts are concerned, many household names in cinematography as well as in literature, and, dare I say it, opera singers and conductors 😲😁. I'm sure there are Italian photographers that are, of have been, if not famous, at least well-known in their country, but if that's the case, I wonder why that fame and/or recognition would have radiated so little across the borders.

Which brings the next question: anybody knows of Italian photo book publishers of interest?
 

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Italian photographers seem to be kind of a blind spot. Haven't seen many mentioned on Photrio. They're certainly missing in my photographic culture. I know of Guido Guidi, but hove no books of his, and have one book of essays by Luigi Ghirri. Even though I know there always has been a strong 20th century photographic, my knowledge essentially stops there. Except for one book, which happens to be one of my favorite in my collection.

It's a book of 400 photographs by Gianni Berengo Gardin, published by Actes Sud. Not in love with the format—and I do wish someone here could point me to an available edition of another book of his photos, if there are any—, but really love the style.
Well, on the strength of your prompt, and because I haven't indulged for a while, I've just ordered this book from Amazon. Reviews say it is beautiful. I'll let you know when it arrives.
 

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Well, on the strength of your prompt, and because I haven't indulged for a while, I've just ordered this book from Amazon. Reviews say it is beautiful. I'll let you know when it arrives.

Do let me know how good it is. I've seen it on amazon.ca, but the price tag is different. Yours is at 50£, which comes to about CAN85$, while on amazon.ca I find it at CAN185$!... I'm rather tempted to get the Gardin books from the Contrasto link logan2z gave me. My Italian is good enough that I could probably get through the texts with the help once in a while of a dictionary.
 

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Spent last Saturday volunteering at Radius Books for their Artist Weekend. Many great books to look at and the chance to meet the photographers/ artists. Got to meet one of my favorites, Mark Klett, and take home a free book..
 
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Italian photographers seem to be kind of a blind spot. Haven't seen many mentioned on Photrio. They're certainly missing in my photographic culture. I know of Guido Guidi, but hove no books of his, and have one book of essays by Luigi Ghirri. Even though I know there always has been a strong 20th century photographic, my knowledge essentially stops there. Except for one book, which happens to be one of my favorite in my collection.

It's a book of 400 photographs by Gianni Berengo Gardin, published by Actes Sud. Not in love with the format—and I do wish someone here could point me to an available edition of another book of his photos, if there are any—, but really love the style.

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Paolo Pellegrin is worth checking out. He's a member of Magnum.
 

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Just discovered a fabulous Russian photographer, Peter Bialobrzeki. He apparently has 18 books. Very surprised that I've never heard of him. Many of them are available on Amazon.
 

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Not sure yet. My only other experience, regarding a friend who has published several books (not self-published), is that it cost him quite a lot anyway and it was largely his responsibility to flog them.
Yes, if you are not a blue-chip photographer, there can be quite a bit of out-of-pocket expenses, even with an established publisher such as Steidl. Also, it seems that today publishers want to be handed a ready-to-go project, complete with a marketing plan. The author is expected to be able to move a lot of copies on their own. The advantage of a publisher vs self-publishing is in distribution. Most bookstores won't touch self-published books, nor will they be reviewed by critics. A lot of sales occur during author readings and presentations, something that can be difficult if not impossible for the self-published book author to arrange.
 

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Do let me know how good it is. I've seen it on amazon.ca, but the price tag is different. Yours is at 50£, which comes to about CAN85$, while on amazon.ca I find it at CAN185$!... I'm rather tempted to get the Gardin books from the Contrasto link logan2z gave me. My Italian is good enough that I could probably get through the texts with the help once in a while of a dictionary.

It has arrived, and I’ve had a quick look through. It’s beautiful and utterly amazing. Thank you so much for making me aware of this guy.

The book itself is beautifully designed and printed. Only occasional photos are bled across pages, and they seem to have chosen photos where the composition actually works fine despite the seam. It’s a thick book, thick pages and 439 of them; but the binding seems well up the job … which is good because it’s going to get a lot of handling!

The text is a small fraction of the book. I don’t know any Italian, but I’m sure my phone will cope with translating it.
 

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It has arrived, and I’ve had a quick look through. It’s beautiful and utterly amazing. Thank you so much for making me aware of this guy.

The book itself is beautifully designed and printed. Only occasional photos are bled across pages, and they seem to have chosen photos where the composition actually works fine despite the seam. It’s a thick book, thick pages and 439 of them; but the binding seems well up the job … which is good because it’s going to get a lot of handling!

The text is a small fraction of the book. I don’t know any Italian, but I’m sure my phone will cope with translating it.

I wanted to order this book as well in Canada, but couldn't find the exact title, would you please advise of the ISBN # ? so that I can search on Amazon. Thank you.
 

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I wanted to order this book as well in Canada, but couldn't find the exact title, would you please advise of the ISBN # ? so that I can search on Amazon. Thank you.

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Yes, if you are not a blue-chip photographer, there can be quite a bit of out-of-pocket expenses, even with an established publisher such as Steidl. Also, it seems that today publishers want to be handed a ready-to-go project, complete with a marketing plan. The author is expected to be able to move a lot of copies on their own. The advantage of a publisher vs self-publishing is in distribution. Most bookstores won't touch self-published books, nor will they be reviewed by critics. A lot of sales occur during author readings and presentations, something that can be difficult if not impossible for the self-published book author to arrange.

Here are the authors talking about PUBLISH YOUR PHOTOGRAPHY BOOK of the "United Nations of Photography" podcast a few weeks ago.


Of course, we can all hope to be like my friend val who got a call from a publisher wanting to do a book with him in four languages -- but only because he had decades of magazine work. Otherwise, it's up to you.
 

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Here are the authors talking about PUBLISH YOUR PHOTOGRAPHY BOOK of the "United Nations of Photography" podcast a few weeks ago.


Of course, we can all hope to be like my friend val who got a call from a publisher wanting to do a book with him in four languages -- but only because he had decades of magazine work. Otherwise, it's up to you.
Has anyone thought about the fact that Ms Swanson has to constantly push her book and workshops, even though it was published by a reputable publisher?
 
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