MattKing
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With their volumes, they clearly buy the constituent parts from fabricators, one small batch at a time.
The thing is there is nothing ‘new’ here. This M6 is just the MP with a different paint job, film advance lever and rewind knob. Everything under the hood has been the same since 2002.
The thing is there is nothing ‘new’ here. This M6 is just the MP with a different paint job, film advance lever and rewind knob. Everything under the hood has been the same since 2002.
I heard a few people say that. Is this confirmed?
Functionally my M6 was identical to my MP. Everything looks and acts the same. The only difference is the film winder, and film rewind. And the ISO dial - which is broken on mine!!! It cannot be set at 400 for example, only above or below!
When I compared both, the VF is identical. The meter is identical. Everything you can see in the camera is identical.
When Leica was actually asked - what are the new bits? No answer. Now think about it logically. The MP is a current production item. The M6 works exactly the same way. Why would it make any sense for them to have different bits inside the camera? If there were changes, then the MP would be changed too. From a manufacturing and economic view point, the more pieces that are interchangeable across the line, the better it is for efficiency and the company's bottom line.
Again, when asked what is the difference, Leica only points to the original M6. Not the MP. And the new M6 is different from the original one, as it has the meter from the MP, brass top and bottom plates (instead of zinc), it has the VF and RF mechanism from the MP which is much better than the original M6 one.
They are intentionally vague and ambiguous, as they wanted to hype it up. And not have people think 'oh, it's just the MP but w a red dot now'. It's all about marketing.
The ISO dial on my new M6 - trying to set it to 400:
Functionally my M6 was identical to my MP. Everything looks and acts the same. The only difference is the film winder, and film rewind. And the ISO dial - which is broken on mine!!! It cannot be set at 400 for example, only above or below!
When I compared both, the VF is identical. The meter is identical. Everything you can see in the camera is identical.
When Leica was actually asked - what are the new bits? No answer. Now think about it logically. The MP is a current production item. The M6 works exactly the same way. Why would it make any sense for them to have different bits inside the camera? If there were changes, then the MP would be changed too. From a manufacturing and economic view point, the more pieces that are interchangeable across the line, the better it is for efficiency and the company's bottom line.
Again, when asked what is the difference, Leica only points to the original M6. Not the MP. And the new M6 is different from the original one, as it has the meter from the MP, brass top and bottom plates (instead of zinc), it has the VF and RF mechanism from the MP which is much better than the original M6 one.
They are intentionally vague and ambiguous, as they wanted to hype it up. And not have people think 'oh, it's just the MP but w a red dot now'. It's all about marketing.
The ISO dial on my new M6 - trying to set it to 400:
But what happens if I try to load Catlabs 320?
But what happens if I try to load Catlabs 320?
I'm afraid the world has adopted the approach of the software industry - design it, debug it, then get it out there where the users will find any problems that you couldn't find earlier. Combine that with having to sub-contract huge parts of the manufacturing to suppliers who only make a small number of items is a recipe for this sort of problem.
That and the fact that no one has the capital to permit a year of real world testing before releasing a product to the market.
It's a glitch.
A metric glitch or US Standard glitch?
Also, sub-contracting not only lowers costs, but increases overall quality because it takes advantage of economies of scale. Specialization comes with higher volumes and better QC.
The % of unlucky users who share their experience online is higher than % of happy users who do so.
Remember the US Mars probe that smashed into the planet because there was a screw up converting English to metric. Oh brother.
Except that we have heard that there is a faulty batch of these - which it appears Leica was unable to detect before the product reached customers.
The Gimli Glider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider
The Gimli Glider: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gimli_Glider
My point was that the "batch" could have been the size of 10 and half of them showed up on www.l-camera-forum.com, and 2 of those 5 published their interaction with Leica customer support for all to see. In this extremely transparent environment companies disclose everything. No need to moan about good ole days and declining manufacturing. Always blame the Internet
My point was that the "batch" could have been the size of 10 and half of them showed up on www.l-camera-forum.com, and 2 of those 5 published their interaction with Leica customer support for all to see. In this extremely transparent environment companies disclose everything. No need to moan about good ole days and declining manufacturing. Always blame the Internet
It's like the Delta flight the other day that departed Scotland for New York. Flames started pouring out of one of the two engines. You can be sure that, people looked pretty carefully at the remaining engine.
True story: one time I was sitting in a window isle during boarding and noticed oil leaking out of the engine before the takeoff. I asked the flight attendant if that was normal. She disappeared to go and check with the pilots and a few minutes later they announced that the plane needs service and we'll have to wait for another. To this day I'm thinking whether that was a coincidence (the flight attendant did not return to me to confirm) and what could have happened...
True story: one time I was sitting in a window isle during boarding and noticed oil leaking out of the engine before the takeoff. I asked the flight attendant if that was normal. She disappeared to go and check with the pilots and a few minutes later they announced that the plane needs service and we'll have to wait for another. To this day I'm thinking whether that was a coincidence (the flight attendant did not return to me to confirm) and what could have happened...
The thing is there is nothing ‘new’ here. This M6 is just the MP with a different paint job, film advance lever and rewind knob. Everything under the hood has been the same since 2002.
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