The Figure 8 Agitation Technique For Roll Film

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I had the same opinion about them, but they're actually pretty good if you burp them. Very little to no leaking actually.

Of course, figure 8 ensures no leaking at all, so it's a no brainer in your case.

I had visions of putting the tank over my shoulder with a towel, then gently patting it on the side until it burped 😆
I'm assuming you mean to slightly open the plastic cover to let air out?
 
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Greatly appreciated Andrew! Well done! Thank you!

Thank you gorbas! I made that video at about 7am, an hour before the little devils got there! It's so nice and peaceful then...
 

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I had visions of putting the tank over my shoulder with a towel, then gently patting it on the side until it burped 😆
I'm assuming you mean to slightly open the plastic cover to let air out?

Hahahaha, good one

Yes, I lift the edge of the lid a bit, while pressing at the center.
 

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If you are skilled with your Tupperware technique, the current Paterson Super System 4 tanks rarely leak :smile:
Thumb on the center pushing down, fingers prying the edge up slightly, until the tank "exhales" a "pfft".
 

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Thanks again, Andrew, for video/tip. I did a roll this morning with a number of frames of blank sky looking for any variations in density. Smooth, no evidence of uneven development! And, no chemicals on the hands!
Tnx
 
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Thanks again, Andrew, for video/tip. I did a roll this morning with a number of frames of blank sky looking for any variations in density. Smooth, no evidence of uneven development! And, no chemicals on the hands!
Tnx

Excellent! Thank you for sharing!
 

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My Dad had an Elkay bakelite tank he used for 30+ years, I still have it. Used the Kodak Darkroom Dataguide technique showed sliding tank to and fro on a countertop. Worked perfectly!
 
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That looks interesting, and I'd like to try it, but is everybody agitating that much?
In general my cycles are two slow twisted inversions and two taps...
Could it be because I need low contrast for my condenser enlarger?
 
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That looks interesting, and I'd like to try it, but is everybody agitating that much?
In general my cycles are two slow twisted inversions and two taps...
Could it be because I need low contrast for my condenser enlarger?

We are using HP5 so we give continuous for first 30 sec. then 5 figure-8's every minute (about 5sec). Pretty much following Ilford's recommendations. Now if I'm using 510-Pyro, or Pyrocat-HD, I don't agitate nearly as much 🙂
 

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If you are skilled with your Tupperware technique, the current Paterson Super System 4 tanks rarely leak :smile:
Thumb on the center pushing down, fingers prying the edge up slightly, until the tank "exhales" a "pfft".

Yep, burping Tupperware is a skill my dear departed mother taught me. As long as there's not a temperature difference a "burped" Paterson should not leak.



Also burping Tupperware prevents pathological organisms from spoiling your party. Not to be confused with pathological Organisms which is another thing entirely. 😅

And there's only the single T in Paterson. 😉
 

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I've never seen a Tupperware video before - particularly one with lighting that makes me think of Halloween!
 
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