Eastman Kodak in America manufacturers Kodak film and sells it to Kodak Alaris in Great Britain who resells the film to stores like B&H. So there are two markups. Kodak Aerocolor is not consumer film and I don;t believe is resold by Alaris. You;re comparing a film wih a particular use to normal consumer film used to shoot people, etc. Here's the description:
APPLICATIONS KODAK AEROCOLOR IV Negative Film 2460 is for general use in medium- to high-altitude aerial-mapping and aerial-reconnaissance photography. It is suited for geological, pollution, archeological, crop and forestry studies; traffic control; city planning; railway, highway, and hydraulic engineering; oceanography; and remote sensing, as well as other areas where photogrammetry is used. It is also well suited and recommended for use in digital film. https://www.kodak.com/content/produ...EROCOLOR-III-Negative-Film-2460-datasheet.pdf
In any case, it;s aerial film. Here's the secription of it in the reselling varieties.
Kodak Aerocolor IV Film Review
A fine-grained medium contrast colour-negative film with a clear base, available in 35mm only.www.analog.cafe
FYI you can buy Aerocolor IV under the label Elektra 100, Luminar 100, and SantaColor 100. All are about $12/36exp
$17 in most places including:
And this is why I feel we are getting gouged by Kodak:
Popho Luminar 100 Color Negative Film, 35mm, 36exp.
Popho Luminar 100 is a new ISO 100 speed daylight-balanced color negative film stock is a respooled Kodak Aerocolor IV 2460 color negative aerial photography film*. The film offers medium saturation and contrast and is well-suited for landscape and other general photographic applications. This...popho.ca
$11.38 for FRESH, respooled Kodak Aerocolor IV. These companies buy this film from Kodak - so basically are middlemen - and can sell it at a profit for 40% less than what Kodak via its resellers (who are just putting it on the shelf) are selling ColorPlus.
Was the Tii at least running?That’s very impressive color, Huss. I hated ColorPlus when some was inadvertently shipped to me. It was artistic and not what I really wanted. Also like the BMW. We have several old ones in my neighborhood that I drool over. I talked to the guy with a derelict 2002 Tii and the first words he spoke was “it’s not for sale”. Then we had a nice chat about how he’ll probably never get around to restoring it. Too bad.
When my local brick & mortar shop, a small business without any buying power, got their most recent Color Plus in stock in January 2023 they were selling at £10 per film, which is the highest I've ever seen it here in the UK actually in stock anywhere.
I know it's currently out of stock but AW have it at £8.50 for 24 exp, £10 for 36.
Ag Photo are listing it at £6.99
Boots at £9
Process Supplies £6
Bristol Cameras £9
I know they're not all currently in stock but it sounds more like B&H are gouging than Kodak.
And those prices include 20% VAT
Was the Tii at least running?
I had a 1988 318i, which in essence was a 'modern' Tii. Small 4 cylinder motor, manual transmission (of course), vinyl seats (which actually was great w my dogs as they just wiped clean), manual sun roof. Not much power, but light weight and everything was perfectly balanced - the steering/clutch/gear matched perfectly. Lively rear axle..
Portra (5) pack of 35mm/36 is $15.40 ($77 for the five) or $3.40 more each roll, about a quarter more from B&H. Ektar 100 in single sale is $16 for a roll of 36. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/759457-USA/Kodak_6031959_35mm_Professional_Portra_NC.html
Kodak Professional Ektar 100 Color Negative Film (35mm Roll Film, 36 Exposures)
Buy Kodak Professional Ektar 100 Color Negative Film (35mm Roll Film, 36 Exposures) featuring Daylight-Balanced Color Negative Film, ISO 100/21° in C-41 Process, Extremely Fine Grain Structure, Vivid Color Saturation, High Sharpness, T-GRAIN Emulsion, Ideal for Scanning. Review Kodak Ektar 100www.bhphotovideo.com
People have to decide whether they want Portra or Ektar rolled by Kodak or another rolled brand for a little less. The point is there's not a huge difference in price for the big difference in product quality and characteristics.
All these films are made by Kodak so the mfg quality is the same.
Do the films have frame numbers?
The prices only count when stuff is in stock... Lots of places here show old prices for out of stock film, but when the film is back in stock - hoo boy has the price shot up!
$3.40/roll is a big difference. And product quality? Well, what is the definition of quality? All these films are made by Kodak so the mfg quality is the same. It then depends on the look that you want. I personally do not much care for Ektar, but I do like Portra. And I really like Aerocolor IV - I love the fine grain and the way it really makes reds pop
And getting colors like this? I've already decided to pick Aerocolor over Portra!
The $3.40 savings is a bonus.
Kodak Alaris' business office operations with respect to film in North America are operated from Rochester New York.
Kodak Alaris does not sell to retailers.
I am not exactly certain of the full involvement Alaris has with the remaining parts of the old Kodak company in America. However I do believe (I was told by a previous employee) That Alaris was founded after the company in Hemel Hempstead in England folded and was based or owned by the pensions side of the company that still survived. I have looked at the outside of the current Alaris HQ curtesy of Google Street-view and it just looks like any other multi-storey office building without a factory anywhere insight. In fact on the remaining commercial site areas around it, there appears to be very little. (The images on Street-view can be old and there is no telling when they were recorded.)
Reminds me of an old joke slightly modified for this forum:
I am not exactly certain of the full involvement Alaris has with the remaining parts of the old Kodak company in America. However I do believe (I was told by a previous employee) That Alaris was founded after the company in Hemel Hempstead in England folded and was based or owned by the pensions side of the company that still survived. I have looked at the outside of the current Alaris HQ curtesy of Google Street-view and it just looks like any other multi-storey office building without a factory anywhere insight. In fact on the remaining commercial site areas around it, there appears to be very little. (The images on Street-view can be old and there is no telling when they were recorded.)
Eastman Kodak is in the same complex as Kodak Alaris.
Kodak Alaris has two parts.
One part is actively growing the business document scanning and handling business that they received as part of the bankruptcy settlement. It is now operated separately under the name "Alaris".
The remaining business is the worldwide marketing and distribution business for Kodak branded films.
When Eastman Kodak went bankrupt, most of the employees worked in that marketing and distribution part of the business - either directly for Eastman Kodak, or for the remaining international subsidiaries. At that time, most of the remaining manufacturing capabilities were at Eastman Kodak's site in Rochester. The main exceptions related to the production of colour paper, and some ancillary production and warehousing facilities in leased premises (mainly) worldwide.
As a part of the bankruptcy settlement, the Kodak Limited/UK pension plan got most/all of those ancillary sites, as well as all the worldwide marketing and distribution business in Kodak branded still film, paper and photochemicals. They transferred all those interests to a new company owned and operated by the Kodak Limited/UK pension plan: Kodak Alaris.
Kodak Alaris subsequently sold off the sites and production capabilities. They also sold off the paper and photochemical businesses. They retain the worldwide marketing and distribution business for Kodak still film.
The reason it all worked for Eastman Kodak is that the bankruptcy settlement relieved them of most of their costs. They remain as a smallish manufacturing entity, with almost no marketing and distribution costs, save for the business they did retain - motion picture film and related photochemistry.
In other words with regard to their RA4 developers and RA4 paper and C41 we are still largely stuffed!
In other words with regard to their RA4 developers and RA4 paper and C41 we are still largely stuffed!
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