The effects of even donning a camera ( and scary situations as a result of it)

guangong

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I always thought N. Koreans would make you have your film developed there before you left - that they would develop it to ensure it had nothing they wouldn't like.

Likewise, today I think they want to examine the digital images.

As far as the North Korean authorities could see, I was only photographing what they wanted to be photographed. Processing Kodachrome would not have been beyond their capabilities. As for Zenit cameras being common in the DPRK, hardly. In Socialist countries only the elite live well...as Orwell noted, everyone is equal, only some are more equal than others...Castro, Maduro, Ortega Kim, Xi.
Japan built up industry and mining in northern part of Korea for 50 years while south remained agricultural. .Therefore, when I visited, the North, existing on their legacy, was more advanced than South. Reverse is true now. As Ronald Reagan noted, nobody washes a rented car.

As for the OP’s original point, I still believe one can photograph and be discreet. I just got a first edition of Arnold Genthe’s Old Chinatown. Pictures taken in San Francisco before 1904. All candid. Primitive equipment. Contemporary dress of Chinese quite different from Genthe’s so he could not blend in with surroundings.

Another useful technique. Take the picture you want and then approach subject and tell them they are so beautiful or handsome that you would like to take their picture. You already have the picture you want.
 

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Correction. Should read: processing Kodachrome would have been beyond their capabilities.
 

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Detained or interrogated and bullied at place?
To my understanding "detained" means being confined at least at police station.

In UK. 'Detained' usually means being stopped in the street and checked and held there until it is clear you are of no further interest to them. It may be simply because you resemble a suspect they are looking for, or there could be something wrong with your car or you are detained for the purpose of s drugs search.There are many reasons you can be detained these are just a few,

Being held at a police station means you have been taken there after arrest and you have had your liberty removed for a set period of time. Usually up to 24 hours after which you can be released on bail, or charged with the offence for which you were arrested, but with the consent of a senior police officer officer, or in some cases a magistrate, this can be 72 hours. In the cases of terrorism this can be much longer, but it has to be justified for example where a person has been arrested as a suspect and there is substantial evidence against him/her that needs to be checked - usually forensic gathered from the scene or DNA evaluation, both of which can take time which can take some time.. .
 

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In the US “detained” is a legal term meaning that the police are investigating and the detained person is not “free to go”. Detainment is generally limited to situations where there is reasonable articulable suspicion (RAS) that a crime has been committed or is about to be committed. In that case detainment generally starts upon initial law enforcement contact and results in an arrest. It could involve time being detained in handcuffs on the streets, in a police car, or at a police station. The police must declare that you are being detained and not free to go, or at least answer that question when asked. In theory but not always in practice. Detainment ends at release or arrest. The courts have ruled that there are limits to detainment for non-specific investigations like “you look suspicious” or “your activity doesn’t seem normal to me” or “there’s nothing illegal but I just don’t like what you are doing”... about 20 minutes. I know that period is longer for real crimes but not sure how long it is... my recollection wants to say 24-hours held without charges but my memory is vague and it’s not worth finding that information.
 

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Authorities worry about photographers because photographs are generally legitimate evidence in a court room. Authorities are perpetually worried about Whistler blowers, investigative reporters, and muck rakers collecting evidence of wrong doing, especially of the economic or corruption kind. Anyone who might be a potential threat to the status quo. Countless cell phone videos of police actions have been confiscated for this reason.
 

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Thank you all.
Yes, there are various legal levels of limiting ones freedom, and they even differ between legal systems. My dictionary seemingly sent me the wrong path and that is why I asked.
 

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Correct
 

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Thank you for filling in the details in your country. I remember when the trash cans disappeared from the streets due to the bombings.
 

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Here's a useful guide to photographers' rights in the US. Mr Krages is a lawyer and a photographer. I try to keep a print copy of the pdf in each of my gadget bags, since there've been too many egregious violations of rights here in the US.

http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm
 
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