Survey - Kodachrome Revival Price Point?

[Stephen Frizza]

You know Steve Frizza's price!

PE

I worked out how much it would cost me on a material level, not factoring in the cost of my time and foolishly asked people here if they would pay it. I did so more to make the point that its ridiculous and has no commercial future. Without automation and a guarantee of high throughput the capital required to commence makes no sense for any business to touch it with a ten foot barge pole.

 

[removed account4]

Is "Wumi" a verb, like I'm feeling, a bit Wumi today ?.

no, but i never heard back

I worked out how much it would cost me on a material level, not factoring in the cost of my time and foolishly asked people here if they would pay it. I did so more to make the point that it has no commercial future. Without automation and a guarantee of high throughput the capital required to commenc makes no sense for any business to touch it with a ten foot barge pole.

i had a feeling .
it died for a reason, no one wanted used it, and no local processing
if it were revived it would become a fad that would last a few weeks
or months and then die again cause no one would bother except for
people could afford it ( if it cost a lot ) or people who wanted to see
what all the hype was about.
regarding cost 50 or 60 or 70 or more $ for a roll of film
is kind of expensive but you don't have to travel far in the analog kingdom
to find people exposing 5x4 or 10x8 or bigger slide film that costs IDK 25-40$ USD a pop to process.

it goes something like photography has never been something for the faint of wallet.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

The appearance of Kodachrome has always appealed to me, but I'm under no illusion that it will ever be commercially manufactured again.

I never shot Kodachrome slides - just 8mm movie film. Truthfully, I have no interest in slides.

Would there be any specialty process-only enterprises for existing undeveloped film? Doubtful, as there can't be many lazy-ass people like me who failed to send their film for processing by 2010.

My understanding is that I can get an old 8mm film of mine developed as B&W. That film is historically significant to me - if I could get it developed in color by someone dedicated to doing it, I'd say it's worth about $1000 to me - but being that it was exposed in 1978, who knows if there's even an image to develop.

 

[Nzoomed]

The appearance of Kodachrome has always appealed to me, but I'm under no illusion that it will ever be commercially manufactured again.

I never shot Kodachrome slides - just 8mm movie film. Truthfully, I have no interest in slides.

Would there be any specialty process-only enterprises for existing undeveloped film? Doubtful, as there can't be many lazy-ass people like me who failed to send their film for processing by 2010.

My understanding is that I can get an old 8mm film of mine developed as B&W. That film is historically significant to me - if I could get it developed in color by someone dedicated to doing it, I'd say it's worth about $1000 to me - but being that it was exposed in 1978, who knows if there's even an image to develop.

I successfully shot an expired roll of kodachrome 40 super8 dated 1979 and it turned out fine, perhaps a little faded, but it did give me very good results.

 

[Photo Engineer]

I think that all Kodachrome threads should be locked!

PE

 

[pentaxuser]

On APUG we seem to be entering a "revivalist" era. I suspect this older thread revived Saraths's very recent thread on a petition to revive Kodachrome and we now have a revivalist thread on 220.

pentaxuser

 

[Nzoomed]

I think that all Kodachrome threads should be locked!

PE

You've been saying that for ages!

 

[Photo Engineer]

And you have been bringing up Kodachrome for ages. You have a fixation!

I don't. I have a revulsion.

PE

 

[Ai Print]

I'm neutral, I love the stuff but know darn well it is not coming back. I can take or leave the discussion at this point.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

 

[michr]

If we're fantasizing about bringing back Kodachrome, then why not sheet film at $10 processed, or some such. Those WWII-era Kodachromes (the most famous of which is Marilyn Monroe before she was Marilyn) have always looked amazing.

 

[Nzoomed]

And you have been bringing up Kodachrome for ages. You have a fixation!

I don't. I have a revulsion.

PE

Actually i havnt!
I did not even restart this thread, im not even at all obsessed in it, all I said in reply was that i successfully shot an expired roll with good results and does not mean you wont get an image.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Actually i havnt!
I did not even restart this thread, im not even at all obsessed in it, all I said in reply was that i successfully shot an expired roll with good results and does not mean you wont get an image.

Maybe I should have put that smiley at the end of my post after all!

 

[Sirius Glass]

I think that all Kodachrome threads should be locked!

PE

+1!

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

Actually i havnt!
I did not even restart this thread, im not even at all obsessed in it, all I said in reply was that i successfully shot an expired roll with good results and does not mean you wont get an image.

Obsessed? Something's up. I've noticed you've started another thread about ... Kodachrome!
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[Nzoomed]

Obsessed? Something's up. I've noticed you've started another thread about ... Kodachrome!
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Read the thread again, i said that the media attention from Kodachrome sparked my interest in analog photography.
What i was getting at, is people need to look at the positives from its demise, i would not be shooting film today if it was not for Kodachrome.

I dont see any issues with any discussion about the film or anyones attempts on processing or experimenting with it. I dont see any problem if i give my own thoughts or opinions either.

I accept its not coming back, ive moved on and am shooting E6

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

Besides the thread is the header which says an entirely different thing. Maybe change that first.
Kodachrome sparked my interest in Analog Photography!
Discussion in '(there was a url link here which no longer exists)' started by (there was a url link here which no longer exists), (there was a url link here which no longer exists).

Listen up. People have (e.g in Australia — Stephen Frizza, among others) tried to offer an achievable service processing Kodachrome through dedicated research and experimentation. Much trumpeting and fanfare and handwringing from those here on APUG at the time, but where was the demand? Oh, that's strange. One would think the doors would be beaten down in eager anticipation, but no. Who was going to pay astronomical prices to have a roll of Kodachrome processed (something like $200)? And others still souping it in B&W and announcing that one has rediscovered the process does not amount to any revival or resurrection when everybody wanted their colour film processed in colour, not B&W.

Yes, concentrate on E6 now, absolutely. It needs a lot more take-up if it is not going to go the way of the Dodo. Erm, Kodachrome, I mean.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

... Who was going to pay astronomical prices to have a roll of Kodachrome processed (something like $200)? ...

I would pay a fair bit more than that to have my ancient roll of 8mm KII processed, plus an additional amount if there's a stable color image.

 

[bvy]

Talking about not talking about Kodachrome is starting to become more annoying than talk about Kodachrome itself. At least a few people here are genuinely interested in doing something with the existing materials that doesn't equate to resurrecting it.

 

[Nzoomed]

Talking about not talking about Kodachrome is starting to become more annoying than talk about Kodachrome itself. At least a few people here are genuinely interested in doing something with the existing materials that doesn't equate to resurrecting it.

+1
I agree!
Its not even about resurrecting the product, its about experimentation with a left over product.
We all know its extremely unlikely we will see new kodachrome produced again.

 

[Xmas]

That's correct.

But the 55% is also skewed by people like yourself who admittedly "...never bought it even when I could have" and are also allowed to cast a vote.

Realistically, since this is a poll addressing the return of a product to a market made up of users of that product, it might be more accurate to poll only those who had used it before. And what might they be willing to pay to use it again. There would be little expectation that people who already disliked it before would suddenly want it start using it on a second go around.

Because it's so simple, the poll is unavoidably and admittedly skewed in many ways. One can only hope that the factors might somewhat balance out to some degree. And any conclusions that might be drawn are still only shadows at best.

But it's still kinda' fun anyway, right?



Ken

Not enough people were buying it even when there were no dcameras.
It was killed by E6 24/7 labs and motorcycle pick up and delivery.

Ilfords or Ferrannis coaters could do one run a year and have to throw away produce at end of each year.

I stopped when K25 stopped.

I'd not buy it again I don't use E6 any more and have not used c41 for several years.

 

[Lionel1972]

Resurecting Kodachrome would require some renewed love and passion for color transparencies first. Given the poor level of appreciation for color film photography in general from many here who see monochrome prints as the only form of analog photography with any artistic value, and for color positives in particular and more so projected color slides, my dream of being able to shoot Kodachrome in 135, 120, 4x5 and 8x10 is likely to remain just a dream.
I think the best time for reviving Kodachrome was just a few months after the end of Kodachrome, when Kodak could have made a big buzz, when the mass media attention was high about the lost of Kodachrome, by introducing an upgraded version of their K14 minilab (which they could rent to brick and mortar photography shops around the world which could actually give them some business to make since the printing part of their business sank), a version which could also process 120 and 4x5, with built-in non-analog aquisition capability coupled with RA4 printing or even better Cibachrome printing.
Now I really hope Film Ferrania come up with some lovely color slide film before everyone lets E6 die without saying a word, so they can breath-in some new love and passion for transparencies before it's too late. Nothing compares to a piece of well exposed chrome projected or on a light table through a good loupe and Kodachrome was king at that.

 

[Nzoomed]

Resurecting Kodachrome would require some renewed love and passion for color transparencies first. Given the poor level of appreciation for color film photography in general from many here who see monochrome prints as the only form of analog photography with any artistic value, and for color positives in particular and more so projected color slides, my dream of being able to shoot Kodachrome in 135, 120, 4x5 and 8x10 is likely to remain just a dream.
I think the best time for reviving Kodachrome was just a few months after the end of Kodachrome, when Kodak could have made a big buzz, when the mass media attention was high about the lost of Kodachrome, by introducing an upgraded version of their K14 minilab (which they could rent to brick and mortar photography shops around the world which could actually give them some business to make since the printing part of their business sank), a version which could also process 120 and 4x5, with built-in non-analog aquisition capability coupled with RA4 printing or even better Cibachrome printing.
Now I really hope Film Ferrania come up with some lovely color slide film before everyone lets E6 die without saying a word, so they can breath-in some new love and passion for transparencies before it's too late. Nothing compares to a piece of well exposed chrome projected or on a light table through a good loupe and Kodachrome was king at that.

I agree, I have always questioned why Kodak did not roll out more K-labs worldwide?
I would have thought this would have solved the whole kodachrome processing issue once and for all?
I must say im amazed how long Kodachrome actually did last, considering the state Kodak was in.
They could have heavily promoted it earlier in the peace and attracted young photographers to experiment with it in much the same way that lomography has caught on with alot of people.

At least Kodak have at long last recognised this gap in the market and are releasing new products like super8 cameras etc. Perhaps they will release E100g and e100vs again? Who knows? Fingers crossed.

Main thing is we Have Ferrania come to the rescue which will see some new E6 offerings, and we will soon have the fastest E6 film ever made!
Ferrania (3M at the time) had scotchchrome 3200, and they have said they plan to introduce all these speeds once more!
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Its very possible they will be experimenting with prototype formulas that never made it to the market also, so we may very well see some new and exciting E6 films that give similar results to Kodachrome! Lets hope! Its the year 2016, im sure we can get a film to replace it if there is enough R&D done.
Remember that today analog photographers are not always after perfection and "accurate" colours anymore, we are after the unique traits a film offered.
This was one of the reasons Kodachrome possibly lost market with more "accurate" E6 films, not that there was anything wrong with Kodachrome, as i believe its skin tones were good, and alot of photographers did appreciate the film for what it was.

 

[calebarchie]

I have researched this for almost a decade, done all the neccesary calculations and forcasts and the final sum is 250 million.

 

[Photo Engineer]

NO ONE WAS INTERESTED.

HEAR THAT!!!!

Except for the few here, no one was interested!

PE