22 out of over 67,000 APUG members isn't very impressive.
As far as the poll goes, at this moment I see 59 replies. Of those, 22 would be willing to open their wallets and 37 would not. That's pretty amazing. Remember now, we're talking boutique markets here. Not the mainline production of 30 years ago. Small, occasional production runs of Kodachrome, with processing capabilities tailored to match that.
22 out of over 67,000 APUG members isn't very impressive.
Unfortunately nobody seems to know how many of the 67K APUG members are discrete individuals ("discrete" meaning with no redundancy or overlap, not polite) or even still alive, let alone active. The percentage numbers presented for a variety of discussions based on "67K members" seems seriously flawed.
My deceased APUG friend would vote "< $40 per roll" and I know he would buy a bunch if for no other reason than to simply possess them.
Oh dear...
It's the sampling that counts. The percentages. Not the absolute values.
In election cycles do the polling organizations count every single registered voter for each published poll?
Trust me here, if it ever were to happen, people beyond only those who voted in this poll would still be allowed to purchase Kodachrome.
Ken
In this case, unlike the political polls, no 'scientific' sampling was involved; participants were 'self selected' making the results next to worthless.
In addition, I learned from in my statistics work in industry (Ford and Kodak) that hypothetical pricing questioning is next to useless; the only thing that counts is when customers actually 'plunk down' their money.
I wish we talked about resurrecting Ilfochrome even half as much as we talk about Kodachrome.
I wish we talked about resurrecting Plus-X even half as much as we talk about Kodachrome.
I'd go for Verichrome Pan.
If you already knew this, then why did you attach any significance at all to the number 22 in your previous post?
At least I used the term "shadows"...
Ken
I still maintain 22 positive responses is not very impressive.
Then neither is 37 negative responses...
Ken
I don't believe I mentioned THEM.
I still maintain 22 positive responses is not very impressive.
BTW, I 'used' the 67k figure because someone used it in another discussion I was involve in [...]
Regardless of how few folks regularly populate APUG, the number 22 is embarrassingly low, especially if we account for the fact that of these 22 members wishing Kodachrome back, the vast majority seems unwilling to commit serious funds to this endeavor. These results contradict strongly the impression I got from the sheer number of threads and postings about the resurrection of Kodachrome.
Looking at Stephen Frizza's thread, he claims that several thousand dollars in hard cash will be necessary to run a minimal K14 processing line for a few rolls of film. Cost per film would only come down with much higher throughput, and this would require a substantially higher investment upfront. With the numbers submitted to this poll, any form of K14 processing line is completely out of the question, and nobody in his right mind would coat another batch of this film regardless of how small the coating machine would be.
And out of the now 23 positive responses, how many will ACTUALLY part with their cash? Maybe this poll should have come with a $100 deposit to go to the first batch?
All of you guys fixated on the absolute number '22' are embarrassing yourselves. You are saying that if Kodachrome were to again become available, only 22 people in the entire world might buy it.
Really?
Ken
Which goes to confirm Ashley that "money talks, and bullshit walks ".
I just noticed that two people HAVE NO PRICE LIMIT SO GET THE COATING MACHINES LUBED AND READY!!!
They don't mention whether they have any money or not though...
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