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They are a historical find, but they should stop being described as being as good as they are, and they should be treated as artifacts of photographic history, not an economic goldmine for Mr. Norsigian. Just be honest. Say they are almost indisputably images made by Adams, that they are nowhere close to the level of quality of his more well known work, state that he chose never to publish them, and that they are best viewed as the work of a budding artist
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/cel.../ansel.adams.alternatives/index.html?iref=NS1
Looks like this guy Norsigian's "experts" just might need to rethink who took these....
As I have previously stated in this thread, I have been following the story for years, and have probably read most of the articles on the matter, from all angles. I personally believe that they are more than likely Adams' negs. I have no problem believing this.
I have a problem with less-than-stellar photos that Adams never published (or even printed, apparently), thus likely never would have, being poorly technically reproduced in a medium that is "acceptable" at best and sold at out-of-hand prices using a trademark to which Mr. Norsigian does not have rights. Whether they are Adams' negs or not, his name is being used to give them value.
They are a historical find, but they should stop being described as being as good as they are, and they should be treated as artifacts of photographic history, not an economic goldmine for Mr. Norsigian. Just be honest. Say they are almost indisputably images made by Adams, that they are nowhere close to the level of quality of his more well known work, state that he chose never to publish them, and that they are best viewed as the work of a budding artist, reproduce them with excellent artistry using a medium Adams would have, and charge reasonable prices for the prints.
To me, it is not about whether they are or are not Adams' negatives. It is about Mr. Norsigian's presentation of the work, which has little to do with photography, and seems to be geared only toward satisfying his personal greed.
Well stated.
The insult to Ansel is that these substandard photographs are being printed on a stink jet printer rather than by traditional chemical methods. Anything worth seeing is degraded by the stink jet.
Steve
Shot on 6 1/2 X 8 1/2 glass plates with a Korona as confirmed on page 3 of Ansels book Examples.
Lastly, one of the plates are an almost exact match to 2 5 X 7 images in The Center for Creative Photography in Tuscon. This is an image of a Jeffries Pine and close examination show the distant snow pack to be identical, meaning these images were taken moments apart. The is undeniable proof.
Was the Korona the only light tight box using this size? So what that you own the same camera?Hi everyone,
Just thought I would give you all of the story re the Ansel Adams lost negatives. The evidience is so overwhelming as to make your head spin. So in a nutshell here are the facts;
Shot on 6 1/2 X 8 1/2 glass plates with a Korona as confirmed on page 3 of Ansels book Examples. This was one of his primary cameras of the 1920's. By coincidence, I also own the same camera.
Some may have fire damage, but there's no way you can say it's "due to his studio fire in 1937." In fact, no one can say exactly when these plates became separated from their shooter.Several images have definite fire damage due to his studio fire in 1937.
No, handwriting analysis can say they are consistent with Virginia's handwriting. If they say anything more definite, they are overstepping the scientific boundaries.Virginia Adams handwriting are on the paper sleeves. Confirmed by independent hand writing analysis.
Yeah, really scientific. :rolleyes:These are definitely in the style of Ansel's work as they evolved over a period of time. To see them as I did you could just feel his presence.
Two "lastly" statements. Great attention to detail. "Could have" is the operative premise here and does not mean the same thing as "did."Lastly, one of the plates are an almost exact match to 2 5 X 7 images in The Center for Creative Photography in Tuscon. This is an image of a Jeffries Pine and close examination show the distant snow pack to be identical, meaning these images were taken moments apart. The is undeniable proof.
Lastly, these negs were originally found in LA after the time Ansel was here in LA teaching at Art Center. I believe he brought them down as teaching tools.
All of this evidence has convinced me without a shadow of a doubt that these are indeed lost treasures of Ansels early work that survived his fire. I am so honored to have been chosen to be a part of this team of experts and my knowledge of both Ansel's work and of being a working large format photographer has helped make this what I believe to be an airtight case. Why Matthew Adams and the Foundation continues to discredit this work, especially in light of the fact he has never seen them is a mystery to us all. It has been an incredible experience to hold these images in my hands. They are the real deal.
Patrick Alt
At worst they aren't Ansel Adams work, at best they are rejects that Ansel Adams never intended using for any exhibition or publication.
Exactly.
If the people involved in this case wanted to have a conclusion that would be respected in the scientific and art communities, there are many other people who actually are above reproach who they could have hired to do the analysis. Since they didn't, there will always be questions as to the shooter of these plates.
Salamander Letter
Hitler Diaries
Dead Link Removed
Alien Crop Circles
Dead Link Removed
Lost Ansel Adams Negatives
There's no more reason to believe in the last one than any of the others.
A little off topic but to add to your list the Dead Link RemovedSalamander Letter
Hitler Diaries
Dead Link Removed
Alien Crop Circles
Dead Link Removed
Lost Ansel Adams Negatives
There's no more reason to believe in the last one than any of the others.
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