What and subject themselves to be proven wrong by factual scientific forensic work!No, they want to be right by inuendo and vague references.
Steve
Exactly.
Except they don't want to be right. They just want to make money.
lxdude said - just a little common sense and the ability to take a balanced unemotional look at things.
OK, since I've got this under my skin now, here's some info. Several years ago, the American Academy of Forensic Sciences (THE important group in the USA for forensic scientists) organized a sub-group to determine which certifying bodies actually used proper criteria, etc.. for certifying people as experts. Yes, there are BS groups out there that will certify people without proper credentials and testing. Here's the list of acceptable boards - http://www.thefsab.org/accredited.html
Note that the National Association of Document Examiners is not on the list. That's the only group listed by the 2 experts used in this case. Notice that there are 2 sections within the IAI (International Association of Identification) that are relevant to this - one on art and one on photography. There's also a board of questioned document examiners. On this list of links from AAFS - http://aafs.org/forensic-links - there are 3 different QDE groups, but not the National Association of Document Examiners. No mention is made on either CV of the number of proficiency tests passed by either individual. One even lists a couple of one day seminars by Thermo Scientific on their CV. I've attended those. Lots of those. They are one day advertisements for Thermo Scientific products. While they can be instructional, they are not classes.
Thomas Knowles is not an expert in forensics and criminalistics - he is a manager. Not to toot my own horn, but I am an expert. I have analyzed over 2500 cases - by actually being at the bench and examining the evidence myself. I have testified in court over 100 times - presenting my educational background and experience each time. I was a member of the American Academy of Forensic Sciences for several years and was a diplomate of the American Board of Criminalists. For the ABC, one must take and pass an exam that isn't particularly easy - many do not pass it the first time; I did.
Sorry for rant!!! My blood boils a bit when I see people making conclusions based on opinions rather than on facts. Without seeing the actual evidence on the handwriting, I cannot say if that was done properly, but that's the only piece of this report that might have been done right. And I say "might." I am not a QDE, so I cannot reexamine that evidence, but I can provide names of people truly certified to do so.
If the people involved in this case wanted to have a conclusion that would be respected in the scientific and art communities, there are many other people who actually are above reproach who they could have hired to do the analysis. Since they didn't, there will always be questions as to the shooter of these plates.
Oh, tell me about it. My desk was FAR from empty, that's for sure. We got backlogs handed to us the day we got signed off to do casework. At least the newer TV shows mean no one asks me about Quincy, ME anymore.Bethe,
How come all the desk and lab tables are clean and empty in the CSI televisions shows? There is never a back log! It takes five minutes to test DNA. The CSI act as police officers using guns and chasing suspects. Who knew!
Though I lack a formal degree, my knowledge and expertise is certainly equivalent to BS.
Well, a lot of the major work is done in the last 5 minutes! Thanks to backlogs, a lot of cases don't get started 'til just before they're needed. But most cases aren't as interesting as TV either - just a matter of putting all the pieces together for court. "Solving" them isn't usually as tough (and isn't usually done by the forensics, the science just provides facts to back up the theories).Winger,
Do you solve all your cases in an hour with all the major work done in the last five minutes?
Steve
Ms. Fisher,
I have other qualifications as well.
I am a member of a large electronic-based organization dedicated to the study, analysis, discussion and furtherance of traditional, i.e. analog, non-electronic photographic processes, both monochrome and full spectrum polychromatic. The monochrome processes alone include silver halide, platinum, palladium, carbon, gum bichromate and many others. I have access to individuals with expertise in plate as well as flexible substrate media.
Uncle Earl's looking better and better by the hour.
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
Let me also just point out that I am not and do not profess to be a photography expert...I am an entertainment attorney and did my very best to put together a team of individuals who I believe are some of the top experts in their respective fields from diverse disciplines and background...I have learned a immense amount working on this project and even more reviewing the comments posted on this thread and in this forum. While I do not agree with all of the comments and opinions expressed, it is evident to me that you are all knowlegedable and informed professionals. If anyone feels that they can add to the provenance of these negatives (postively or negatively) please respond to me off-line. All the best.
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More marketing hype...what a shameful and dishonorable manner of conduct. Pathetic.
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