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I know this will never happen, but never say never ...:smile:

And as I would "never" go digital for "black & white" [I know, never say never ... :smile:]

"Suppose that in the near future, there is no company that makes film anymore...
Suppose there is no company that will make develloper/fixer...
Suppose there is no company that makes baryte paper..."

What could I do for still doing the b & w work in the darkroom?

For film there is a solution:
Buying a huge number of film and place them in a freezer.

For developper/fixer: that won't be difficult. We can prepare those ourselves.

But what about fiber papers?? Can I make a warmtone paper myself?

:smile:
Many thanks for your idea's/thoughts.
 
sorry I forgot the rest:

Fomabrom Var. is produced in the following sizes:
12,7 x 17,8 cm/25, 100
17,8 x 24 cm/10, 25
24 x 30,5 cm/10, 25
30,5 x 40,6 cm/10
50,8 x 61 cm/10
Rolle 108 cm/10m.
In case you would like to order this goods, You there is ........................................... and the production of it is finished in this days.
I suppose dispatching by DHL next week. Thank you for your understanding.

With regards
Dana Hojná


Robert
 
I've merged two duplicate threads into this one, but it looks like Fred's original incomplete post is at the top of the list, so read down to the third post for the complete version.
 
Fotohuis said:
sorry I forgot the rest:

....

In case you would like to order this goods, You there is ........................................... and the production of it is finished in this days.
I suppose dispatching by DHL next week. Thank you for your understanding.

With regards
Dana Hojná


Robert

Your answer is a little bit OFF TOPIC Robert: question was: can we make photographic fiber papers ourselves??

Fred
 
You can certainly use the handcoated alternative processes that many people are currently using, and coating your own gelatin silver emulsion is certainly a realistic proposition. There are a couple of threads on it here. You might try a search on "emulsion making."
 
Just suppose there were no more B&W paper and film products offered for sale. Well then I would make my own.

Just suppose that there were no more color. I would complain a lot, and probably use digital for the camera work, make color transparencies digitally and print them on my own version of Ilfochrome. That would probably be the only color material that could be coated in a home darkroom with any chance of success.

PE
 
Geez, another "the end is near" thread. This is nauseating. Live in the present and be happy.
 
As long as people will buy film, it will be made - in the end there will be three or less companies that will make it. One will compete on innovation, one will compete on customer service and one will compete on price. Staples still sells typewriters. I bought a percolator coffee pot at Walmart. You can still buy a bow and arrows for hunting deer.
 
BradS said:
Geez, another "the end is near" thread. This is nauseating. Live in the present and be happy.

Dear Brad,

I'm convinced of the opposite: there will be a "Back to the Future" a revival.

The subject is only for having the good answers to "the compassionate regards of the other side of the street"... :smile:

Regards
Fred
 
I don't think it's the same exposure. The "demon eyes" one seems to show slightly different lighting on her earrings, blouse and neck. A fill flash? I wouldn't out it past USA Today to do something like this, but I don't know of them having a strong liberal bias. Of course, now that there is blood in the water, the press seems to be taking out a lot of repressed anger...
 
what?
 
fred said:
Your answer is a little bit OFF TOPIC Robert: question was: can we make photographic fiber papers ourselves??

Fred

Fred, the answer is yes. See my posts elsewhere.

I am making my own contact and enlarging papers in a variety of surfaces on FB and am working on getting a source for RC.

I plan on offering a workshop on the subject of making and coating papers next year.

PE
 
Photo Engineer said:
Fred, the answer is yes. See my posts elsewhere.

I am making my own contact and enlarging papers in a variety of surfaces on FB and am working on getting a source for RC.

I plan on offering a workshop on the subject of making and coating papers next year.

PE

Also on-line photo engeneer??? :smile:
with password and so-on...:smile:
 
fhovie said:
You can still buy a bow and arrows for hunting deer.

I would hope so, Archery is one of the most highly developed sports on the planet now, the amount of high tech research that goes into ever new bow or arrow would amaze you, most of the companies designing new bows as well as materials and new arrows have PHd. in engineering and design.

Dave
 
fred said:
Also on-line photo engeneer??? :smile:
with password and so-on...:smile:

Right here on APUG. Either use the "search" function, or you might click on Photo Engineer's name by one of his posts to get to a list of his other posts to find the threads that deal with emulsion making.
 
David A. Goldfarb said:
Right here on APUG. Either use the "search" function, or you might click on Photo Engineer's name by one of his posts to get to a list of his other posts to find the threads that deal with emulsion making.


David, he might be referring to the chat room which I used before the rules changed in usage.

PE
 
Photo Engineer said:
David, he might be referring to the chat room which I used before the rules changed in usage.

PE

Perhaps. I thought that maybe he thought (too much mind reading for the both of us there) that you had posted some articles on some other site.
 
I am more concerned about the level of Quality Control from the smaller film manufacturers once the big players are gone. We are used to opening a box of film or paper from companies like Kodak and Ilford and getting reasonable consistency from box to box.

I have not used film or paper from the smaller companies (like Efke, for example. Not to pick on them). Does anyone have similar concerns?

--John
 
That certainly is a concern, but consider that Azo has changed in some visible ways in recent years as production was moved from Rochester to Canada to Brazil. As I see it, the solution is just to test a little more frequently and try to purchase in batches.
 
I have used paper from 2 smaller manufacturers and have actually had sheets of 11x14 with streaks of emulsion and bare support across them in a pattern that looks like (to me) a startup or shutdown of the coating bead.

There were problems with Azo from what I heard, but only in the last batches. I have also heard that it was a very small run of Azo due to the lack of demand.

PE
 
Satinsnow said:
I would hope so, Archery is one of the most highly developed sports on the planet now, the amount of high tech research that goes into ever new bow or arrow would amaze you, most of the companies designing new bows as well as materials and new arrows have PHd. in engineering and design.

Dave

I'm afraid I'm a bit of a Luddite there, as well: My favorite hunting bow is an English style longbow made from Pacific Yew, and I make the arrows from cedar and turkey feathers. I'll admit to being a bit modern in that I make my strings from dacron and use steel heads and plastic nocks on the arrows. Of course, I use modern film in my cameras, too. OK, you can have the thread back now. :wink:

Bruce
 
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