More hyperbole. More mocking.
not really, no mocking, no hyperbole - not posted nor intended. sorry you have
taken what i have said about ME not needing to use a meter as some sort of attack
on your or anyone else's shooting style. if you want to use a meter, please use one.
i have never suggested you or anyone else not use a meter. its been suggested here on apug
that not using a meter is some sort of creative crutch, and wasting precious resources. i'd rather not
be a part of some underground group that gives people bad advice. i posted what *I* do, not what
i am suggesting you do.
for me, in most cases, i can judge the light easier (unless i can't ) without a meter.
kodak used to print a pictogram on every film box to expose at sunny 16 ( the subject of this thread )
as vaughn showed, so did rollei, if it didn't work, people wouldn't use it, i am guessing
companies ( maybe there are others? ) wouldn't have suggested people expose that way, unless
( as i have read in the past ) it was some sort of pan-industry-pan-generational-conspiracy to get people to expose poorly,
so they would buy more film ... but i doubt that is true. it works, so they suggested people use it.
if you read what i wrote i suggested a way to meter the scene both from a distance and up
close both that night and running a test roll and returning the next day.
and earlier i suggested what i would do without a meter. it seems to be that i suggested almost what
hatchetman exposed at ( i also said to bracket and suggested a way to develop the film in a way i
typically do, which works in situations like this ... but film processing style/technique is a differnt thread)
and i also suggested what you said he do --- ( before you posted it ).
not sure how that can be considered mocking you or him or anyone else.
maybe you took offense at the word "futz" ? i consider
my fumbling around with a meter attempting to
figure out what to meter-read, and mentally calculating from a distance what the exposure might or might
not be futzing around. if i was on assignemnt and my managing editor said " get that night shot with the
train going by" i might have missed it if it was a speiclal moment, if it wasn't a special moment, and i had time/resources
to expose a test roll, and return ...
instead of saying " i've exposed in a situation like this before, almost the same sort of lighting and it was .. this, and i'll bracket"
seems you just arrived here on apug in june... you'll notice from not only
posts in this thread, but the 1.8 million+ posts here, that there are as many ways to
expose light sensitive materials, as there are people with ( or without ) a camera.
hopefully you'll stick around and share your methods as much as everyone else
( who might or might not share your ways ) shares theirs.