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Oh my god! I step away for a couple of years and you all continue arguing this question? Clearly stop bath must be used... or maybe water is Ok?
Oh my god! I step away for a couple of years and you all continue arguing this question? Clearly stop bath must be used... or maybe water is Ok?
"what kind of vinegar, apple cider, malt, red wine, etc"
You may even get a bit of staining for good measure. Probably less toxic than Pyro developers.They'll all work - try Balsamic for added tonality.
Oh my god! I step away for a couple of years and you all continue arguing this question? Clearly stop bath must be used... or maybe water is Ok?
Would the non use of acid stopbath be because the user is stingy, penny pincher?
Because we all know that......................................
STOP in the name of love...
If water was a stop bath, water bath development would never have been a thing.
Yeah never use a Rodinal stop bath.
It may not be "better" but if it is available where Indicator Stop isn't, it's the only game in town. Which makes it a great option.There isn’t much to figure out. Typical distilled white vinegar is 4-5%. Dilute 1+1 with water to make stop bath without the indicator, which is kind of useless or at least superfluous anyway. Simple as that.
I’m not suggesting this is better, of course. It’s the same thing. Probably more expensive than the Kodak product on a vol/vol basis.
Indeed yes. Especially since I toss my working solution of stop bath after a single use. I know the fresh batch of stop works... and it's always fresh.Well, that’s true. And as far as the indicator goes, even PE said the good old touch test is plenty. As long as it has the squeaky feeling between your fingers it’s fine.
There isn’t much to figure out. Typical distilled white vinegar is 4-5%. Dilute 1+1 with water to make stop bath without the indicator, which is kind of useless or at least superfluous anyway. Simple as that.
I’m not suggesting this is better, of course. It’s the same thing, but almost certainly more expensive than the Kodak product on a vol/vol basis.
Nah. Stain is useless unless it is proportional.
That's $2.00 for 15 litres, vs $10.00 for 64 litres Kodak Indicator Stop (at Beau Photo, without any educational discount).At school we're using plain old vinegar, diluted 1+2, to cut down on costs. A couple loonies gives me 5L.
That's $2.00 for 15 litres, vs $10.00 for 64 litres Kodak Indicator Stop (at Beau Photo, without any educational discount).
That is at least a little savings, I guess.
I paid something like $10 for a pint of concentrated Kodak stop bath (with indicator) which would last me 100 rolls given 4ml per roll. That works out to be cheaper than the tap water that comes out of my faucet. But yeah, as Steve says... indicator stop bath is far to expensive to use. Better off going to a grocery store and buying vinegar and figuring out how that works with film.
Apparently, I over-paid: Perhaps I should spend another $15 to buy enough Kodak Indicator Stop Bath to last the rest of my life... and even have half a pint left over for my sons.
Indeed yes. Especially since I toss my working solution of stop bath after a single use. I know the fresh batch of stop works... and it's always fresh.
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