"Star" is asking :"How to become an analogue photographer"?

trendland · Feb 10, 2018

what a secret? It is like one of such subtle Masonic secret sciences - perhaps first asking the freemasons.
(By the way : many of them are registered here on Photrio)
But seriously - any ideas wich camera?
NO IT ISN'T A LEICA ....

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tec...-how-to-become-an-analogue-photographer-again
with regards

PS : Nice example of Kodak PR in regards of analogue revival campaign.

darkroommike · Feb 10, 2018

It's called film, buy a film camera, shoot film, dang it. Analogue is not a thing.

Billy Axeman · Feb 10, 2018

An analogue photographer is a human being from flesh and blood, it is not a robot (digital) or even a cyborg (hybrid).

Ap507b · Feb 10, 2018

Their large format to digital comparison? Are they sure?

trendland · Feb 10, 2018

Ap507b said:
Their large format to digital comparison? Are they sure?

It was stated firsty 1998 : A simple 135 film should have the eqivalent more than 20MP in comparison to digital.
The idea behind this article is the following :
If you are bored from digital - throw away your digital camera.
And learn to make photographs.
with regards

trendland · Feb 10, 2018

Billy Axeman said:
An analogue photographer is a human being from flesh and blood, it is not a robot (digital) or even a cyborg (hybrid).

Beware of ......, Billy : The danger is a fact for human beings. (To become more and more a cyborg.)

with regards

PS : I remember a young lady in a potrait studio. She was a real expert of her profession. The studio had a "nice price week".
She had an extreme routine with her digital equipment. It began with the lighting (allways the same lighting for the whole "nice price week" - perhaps for the whole year?) it ended with her look on the display of her digital megapixel monster.
I guess it was a strong short look wich lasted not more than 1/8 sec.
So she was both : bussy AND fast.
She could have been more fast if she did not look to every single shot on her display. A routined, controled workflow
I remember first from Fritz Lang's
M E T R O P O L I S .....
with regards

AgX · Feb 10, 2018

trendland said:
But seriously - any ideas wich camera?

Altissa Altix Nb

Actually there are two "b"-versions ("b" refering to exposure meter):
1) with meter on top
2) with meter built-in plus bright-frame feature

This is the second version.

Lens is a 2.8 50mm Tessar or Trioplan

Svenedin · Feb 10, 2018

darkroommike said:
It's called film, buy a film camera, shoot film, dang it. Analogue is not a thing.

I also hate the term "analogue photography"! I'd rather it was called "chemical photography" (which would encompass film, glass plates, cyanotypes, paper etc etc).

trendland · Feb 10, 2018

AgX said:
Altissa Altix Nb

Actually there are two "b"-versions ("b" refering to exposure meter):
1) with meter on top
2) with meter built-in plus bright-frame feature

This is the second version.

Lens is a 2.8 50mm Tessar

Aha - I see, can't find this model via google pictures.At last desperately seeking with key words "digital range finder cameras" because of very smal
wheels on cameras top." But then it would have been a big big journalism failure.....

with regards

Ap507b · Feb 10, 2018

trendland said:
It was stated firsty 1998 : A simple 135 film should have the eqivalent more than 20MP in comparison to digital.
The idea behind this article is the following :
If you are bored from digital - throw away your digital camera.
And learn to make photographs.
with regards

Yes, and a statement to the effect "For people who want even more detail in their photos there are large format film cameras that can match even top-of-the-range digital models" is absolute nonsense & spoils the article. How many megapixel equivalent In a large format picture? 800 supposedly. Dump over £30K on medium format digital to see only 400 or so. Megapixels aren't everything but LF takes some beating for quality.

Kind regards.

AgX · Feb 10, 2018

trendland said:
Aha - I see, can't find this model via google pictures.

What made you think it is rangefinder??

http://www.cjs-classic-cameras.co.uk/altix/nbv2.jpg

http://www.cjs-classic-cameras.co.uk/altix/lydith.jpg

jim10219 · Feb 10, 2018

Svenedin said:
I also hate the term "analogue photography"! I'd rather it was called "chemical photography" (which would encompass film, glass plates, cyanotypes, paper etc etc).

Very true. An “analog photographer” would be someone who doesn’t take photos of the things they want to photograph, but rather photograph things with many similarities to the things they wanted to photograph. So while a normal photographer may do portraits of people, an analog photographer might take photographs of chimpanzees dressed like those people.

Billy Axeman · Feb 10, 2018

jim10219 said:
Very true. An “analog photographer” would be someone who doesn’t take photos of the things they want to photograph, but rather photograph things with many similarities to the things they wanted to photograph. So while a normal photographer may do portraits of people, an analog photographer might take photographs of chimpanzees dressed like those people.

Yes, that is a good description.
May I add that an exoskeleton doesn't make you a cyborg, you are still an analogue photographer.

Theo Sulphate · Feb 10, 2018

jim10219 said:
... an analog photographer might take photographs of chimpanzees dressed like those people.

Actually... that would be an interesting project.

trendland · Feb 10, 2018

Theo Sulphate said:
Actually... that would be an interesting project.

That's not enough : A paralel performance should show cyborg chimpanzees dressed like people - shot digitaly. THIS should be a conceptional basis of such a project.
Actualy ...Theo

with regards

trendland · Feb 11, 2018

AgX said:
Altissa Altix Nb

Actually there are two "b"-versions ("b" refering to exposure meter):
1) with meter on top
2) with meter built-in plus bright-frame feature

This is the second version.

Lens is a 2.8 50mm Tessar or Trioplan

AgX said:
What made you think it is rangefinder??

http://www.cjs-classic-cameras.co.uk/altix/nbv2.jpg

http://www.cjs-classic-cameras.co.uk/altix/lydith.jpg

It is indeed quite interesting.Never heard about Altix cameras before.It is one of some dozent manufacturers with great history before WWII and some years after it.
Dead Link Removed

with regards

PS : "Viewfinder cameras " of course not
"Rangefinder cameras ".....

PPS : very nice other models :

AgX · Feb 11, 2018

The manufacturer was Altissa, it got part of the Pentacon concern and finally had to cancel all own models. The Nb was their latest model, already produced under the wings of the concern.

Many wine about that concentration. I see it as only way to face what was coming up from Japan, though it failed nevertheless.

macfred · Feb 11, 2018

Svenedin said:
I also hate the term "analogue photography"! I'd rather it was called "chemical photography" (which would encompass film, glass plates, cyanotypes, paper etc etc).

I call it "photography".
Let's be honest ... - is there an other kind of photography ?

TheRook · Feb 12, 2018

Svenedin said:
I also hate the term "analogue photography"! I'd rather it was called "chemical photography" (which would encompass film, glass plates, cyanotypes, paper etc etc).

I am also not a fan of the "analogue photography" term, and I refuse to use it. Although perhaps not quite as descriptive, the term "traditional photography" is more to my liking than "analogue photography". "Chemical photography" is good too, but may be confusing to many non-photographers.

faberryman · Feb 12, 2018

TheRook said:
I am also not a fan of the "analogue photography" term, and I refuse to use it. Although perhaps not quite as descriptive, the term "traditional photography" is more to my liking than "analogue photography". "Chemical photography" is good too, but may be confusing to many non-photographers.

Why not film photography? I know there are processes like paper negatives that don't require film, but in the vast majority of cases when people say analog photography they are talking about film.

fiddle · Feb 12, 2018

Analog photographer makes no sense to me,
But analogue photography does.
Same as in the audio sense, analogue is a continuous variable physically recorded in real time, as opposed to digital, translated and certain bits being recorded after the fact.
Still rather just call of film photography, or just photography though..

trendland · Feb 12, 2018

fiddle said:
Analog photographer makes no sense to me,
But analogue photography does.
Same as in the audio sense, analogue is a continuous variable physically recorded in real time, as opposed to digital, translated and certain bits being recorded after the fact.
Still rather just call of film photography, or just photography though..

Same problem I had at the beginning as digital came. Over some decades the term camera has to say a camera is meant. Then digital was introduced and one spoke about digital cameras. No problem.
But suddenly the term analogue camera came - "what spell again" ? A N A L O G U E camera " what is meant "?????
Horrible there was no single analogue camera on this planet for more than 150 years and suddenly most people state : Ahh.... an analogue camera !
I did not use this term I use conventional camera since then. Because the term FILM CAMERA is mostly used to Movie Film Camera (what I often noticed) - so it is possible a mixing.
And photography is photography. Digital enlargement - conventional enlarging via otical system - thats my kind of using words.

with regards

fiddle · Feb 12, 2018

Before digital there was no non analogue form of recording data. Once it was here, that became the differentiating term between the recording methods.
Again, more familiar with audio methods. But I think it translates to photography in some ways.

Regardless, I still dislike the term...

AgX · Feb 12, 2018

TheRook said:
I am also not a fan of the "analogue photography" term, and I refuse to use it. Although perhaps not quite as descriptive, the term "traditional photography" is more to my liking than "analogue photography". "Chemical photography" is good too, but may be confusing to many non-photographers.

Yes, but "traditional photography" nobody would understand here.

AgX · Feb 12, 2018

We do need a Royal fellow here at Apug to promote analog photography:

"Star" is asking :"How to become an analogue photographer"?

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