Let me get this correct. For TF3, I fix in “ bath one” for 30 sec. then in “ bath two” for 30 sec.. . . Ok got it. How many 8x10 paper do I get out a liter for bath one? How many 8x10 paper for bath two? I’m assuming each has their own container? Do you ever move bath two to bath one And make a fresh “ bath two” ?
This approach may speed things slightly, but it is no longer recommended, because it results in greatly reduced capacity for your toner. The washaid runs out of capacity long before the toner would otherwise do so, forcing you to discard the toner part of the mix far too soon.toning, using toner mixed using Ilford Washaid
Not for the sake of controversy, but for the quality of information. Selenium toner can be used to test the completeness of fixation (i.e. residual silver halides) rather than completeness of washing (residual hypo). see:
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/selenium-toner-as-fixer-test.68246/
as you (Doremus Scudder) stated yourself:
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/fixer-testing.156191/#post-2025474
Done - fixed this post tooIt's really too bad I can't go back and edit myfirstsecond post!! (Moderators?)
Done - fixed this post too.
(best to use the Report Post function if you need something like this - it draws the request to our attention)
This approach may speed things slightly, but it is no longer recommended, because it results in greatly reduced capacity for your toner. The washaid runs out of capacity long before the toner would otherwise do so, forcing you to discard the toner part of the mix far too soon.
The Toner on its own can be indefinitely replenished, so if you don't mix Washaid in with it, it can essentially last forever.
And here is a page from the Ilford Washaid MSDS - it is essentially sodium sulfite:
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To add to the wash-aid discussion: It's most effective if used after thorough rinsing, not right after fixing as someone described in this thread! Something about the sulfite ions needing to be the vast majority for ion exchange to be effective iirc.
I was not differentiating. We could say "rinse first, then wash"? What I do know is that your rinsing is certainly the best first step as it removes a large portion of fixer. There must be a specific point in washing where the wash aid step is most effective. What I've read is that it must be quite far along, I think I read after several minutes of washing. I and maybe you should check the wash-aid instructions.Jus a little question: do you make a difference between rinsing and washing?
I ask this because, after fixing, I just rinse the print by spraying 20°C water over it (recto-verso) with a (garden-) water hose...
I never got a problem doing this, but I am always eager to refine my work flow!
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