Ron Mowrey/PE's Emulsion Making Book/DVD set

[Christopher Walrath]

We are ever your faithful.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

Put me on the waiting list as well!

 

[c.d.ewen]

Best wishes to all and my thanks for your patience.
PE

Same to you. Let us know if we can help.

Charley

 

[Emulsion]

PE,

Keep up the good work. I am very keen to buy the book/dvd.

Thanks
Emulsion

 

[doughowk]

Also interested in the book & DVD. Sounds like it will be quite thorough.

 

[Q.G.]

Would perhaps be quicker to count the APUGgers who don't want a copy of the book.

 

[J. Miller Adam]

So...

Any chance the most-anticipated photo tech book of the new century will be available to the holiday shopping season (since there wasn't a Ron Mowrey Black Friday Shopping Event assault on my email yesterday)?

If getting the thing fully finished is perpetually shimmering on the far horizon, perhaps publishing it as it exists and publishing an update addendum might ease the publication process, as well as introduce some (hopefully) useful income earlier in the process. Given the technical, unique and valuable nature of the information you have to share, I know I'd be happy to settle for 90% fabulous. And what if you get hit by a truck tomorrow (as my administrators always tell me)?

Maybe engineers shouldn't be their own editors (or marketers)

Sincerely,
An antsy artist who doesn't like to wait....

 

[Photo Engineer]

JMA;

I am doing my best. I've been sitting here for several hours, typing AAMOF. I have been adding the material that readers thought appropriate or that I found I have left out. That is about all I can say. As I type, I flip back and forth to APUG and when really tired, I go to the lab and do more experiments. Right now, I am working on vAg, but the next task is the ultra high speed emulsion.

I might add, without revealing too much, that my book may be eclipsed totally by another book that is at about the same stage of development as mine, but is going to be a real blockbuster when it arrives.

So there! I hope that I have whetted a few appetites. The lid has been kept on this other book, but when I saw the draft last week it blew my mind. You are all going to love it and both books will make a handsome addition to anyone's library on photography.

No other comments now! No questions, nothing. That is all you get from me.

PE

 

[J. Miller Adam]

Jeez!

It's like having to wait until Christmas Day to open your presents!

Maybe you'll have to have the cover of your book be in Kodak Yellow to make it stand out!

Keep plugging away!

JMA

 

[Christopher Walrath]

Thank for the update, Ron. Keep up the work, my boy.

 

[wildbillbugman]

PE,
That should be illegal! Writing about a "blockbuster" which will "eclipse" your own book. That is beyond a "tease", and is as close to torture as is "waterboarding". I cannot help but start to guess. But I wont make my gueses public because I will probably be wrong. But I can only think of about two things that it could be. That is as long as I stay within the limits of what is "possible".
Bill:confused:

 

[3Dfan]

Any updates?

 

[wildbillbugman]

Any Updates?

Yes!!!!!!
I reiterate my last post in this thread!
Bill

 

[Photo Engineer]

I've posted an update in another thread here. I don't have a reference, but it was posted today in answer to a question from Tom Kershaw about learning electronics.

I'm working on it Bill. Please be patient. I am not a fast writer and have had to do weeks of vAg experiments in the lab in order to complete one chapter. I am waiting for pump tubing at the present time for the next set of experiments. The last batch was not the right type and the correct type is still on order.

See the other post for more information.

PE

 

[3Dfan]

I applaud your dedication to making a quality product.

 

[3Dfan]

How about now?

 

[Photo Engineer]

How about now?

Please see my recent posts for updates.

In May of 2009, my wife broke her leg. She was in a wheelchair for 6 months and a walker for about 3 months. She has just transitioned from 2 canes to 1 cane. In the mean time, I was a total care provider.

In spite of this, I have recently completed a new emulsion, details elsewhere, that moves the final "chapter" of the book forward.

Thanks for your interest. Sorry for the unavoidable delay.

PE

 

[alexhill]

That's actually an excellent idea. You could sell the book/DVD with samples as your premium product at a premium price and the book/DVD sets without samples (or just photocopied samples) at a more entry level price. It could improve your $ bottom line nicely. You wouldn't have to bind the samples into the book. Just slip them into a pocket inside the cover, as I assume you're planning on doing with the DVD. The samples could be small. One 8x10 print would yield four pieces.

I know I'd spring for the premium set. You only had a few azo-type prints at our workshop three years ago. I'd love to see the progress you've made on a greater diversity of recipes.

Good luck with the editing. Not fun, but certainly part of the process.
d

Ditto. Having samples on hand to compare to would be killer!

 

[Photo Engineer]

Can you imagine making all of the prints needed to supply total sales of this book? Even 100 or 200 each of say 10 emulsions, would be too much to handle and what should I do about glass plates? That would be about 2000 samples of prints and negatives!

I usually make about 500 ml of emulsion at a time here. That will make about 80 8x10 sheets or 160 5x7 sheets for contact prints. That takes about 1 week to make and coat and then about another week to print, cut and etc.... You want me to do all of this as well as write the book? This would probably triple the cost of the book to cover the cost of Silver Nitrate, Gelatin, and utilities (heat and water mainly) and delay the book another year.

I could have ONE premium copy with all of the originals in it. That one would be the "museum" piece and I would probably put it at the Formulary! In fact, some of the original prints are at the Formulary, my having taught several Workshops there. Anyone visiting could probably get Bud to show some of them. IDK. It's up to him. I'm sure that he has them filed away.

PE

 

[Formulary/Bud Wilson]

totally available for anybody to see. The rest of the place and Montana is also nice to see.
Bud

 

[Q.G.]

totally available for anybody to see. The rest of the place and Montana is also nice to see.
Bud

Yeah, but, uhm... but... It's so far away...!

I'd love the book, without the samples.
I expect that what's not in it is not worth knowing about.
A rough estimate when it could become available? (This year, next year, that sort of thing?)

 

[Graham06]

Can you imagine making all of the prints needed to supply total sales of this book? Even 100 or 200 each of say 10 emulsions, would be too much to handle and what should I do about glass plates? That would be about 2000 samples of prints and negatives!

PE

Free labour! As you show, it would clearly be a miserable task for you to make then all, but you apparently give emulsion making classes. You could include making a few samples for you as part of the price of admission. You could have people paying to make acceptable samples for you and they would be enjoying it too. Every class you'd pick a different emulsion.

Equipment limitations may limit what could be made, but maybe you could work something out. The market for the premium copy wouldn't be that high because of course it would still be much more expensive

 

[Photo Engineer]

Graham;

I am not giving Workshops presently. One of the reasons is that I have to finish the book and that requires some research. I can't do too many things at one time or I do none of them well.

As for the book, I am doing the best I can. See post #42 above. This last year has not been a picnic for me and I am more than a year behind schedule. That is unacceptable to me, but unavoidable.

The book is 235 pages long with over 100 photos or illustrations. I have 2 more formulas to add. One is complete but very fast and foggy. I have to fix some problems. Due to its nature, it used a huge quantity of Silver Nitrate. I may omit both of them against the advice of those who suggested that I add them.

Next, I have to re-proof the writing and have some friends proof it as well, and then I have to get copyright ok to use a few illustrations from other photo books (or omit them and just give references). Either way takes time. This will probably require EK to see the book and that is a potential delay there. In one case, it took them several years to read the book of an associate, as these are not high priority items for them.

I had hoped that it would be out there right now, but with about a 1 year delay, you see where that puts me. Again, please read my post above. I'm doing the best I can, believe me. I split my day between the lab and the PC, with days off writing and calculating new formulas or just thinking of how to do things new ways. It took me months to get the vAg measurements working and reliable (a suggested addition to the book) and it took 3 months to get reliable small gauge tubing for the pumps.

I hope this helps. Sorry for the delay.

But, if you wish to volunteer, order a bottle of Formazo from the Formulary and make me 100 4x5 contact prints. Use either Baryta paper or any 100# Hot press paper. Even better, make that 100 8x10 contact prints.

PE

 

[argentic]

I might add, without revealing too much, that my book may be eclipsed totally by another book that is at about the same stage of development as mine, but is going to be a real blockbuster when it arrives.

Not one new quality darkroom book but two ? WOW !! Count me in for both !! Where can I subscribe ?

 

[wildbillbugman]

Ron,
All of your delays are unfortunate, but certainly understandable. But what are the excuses for the "Other Guy" who is supposed to be writing the "Other Book"?
Bill