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I use a Hoya Y.O green filter for shooting B & W outdoor portraits, it gives the skin tones a healthy suntanned look, and is also used for lighting foliage in landscape photographs.

That sounds interesting. I will check it out. Thanks.
 

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That sounds interesting. I will check it out. Thanks.

You just need to remember Andrew about colored filters, is that they lighten similar shades and darken opposite ones, so green will darken any hue of red,and red will darken blue etc.
I find that although "panchromatic" means " sensitive to all colours" the modern films are a little too sensitive to blue, and if I want correct tonal rendition I use a yellow/green filter. I hope this helps.
 
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You just need to remember Andrew about colored filters, is that they lighten similar shades and darken opposite ones, so green will darken any hue of red,and red will darken blue etc.
I find that although "panchromatic" means " sensitive to all colours" the modern films are a little too sensitive to blue, and if I want correct tonal rendition I use a yellow/green filter. I hope this helps.

Yup. I teach a wee bit of colour theory in my art classes and a bit in my photo classes as well... Green is not my favourite filter to use, although I do like using the Wratten #11. Have you ever used one? It's probably time I pulled it out and gave it a whirl. I usually limit myself to just a #8, #15, #25 and then of course my IR filters. Cheers!
 

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Current pan films aren't all the same with respect to the actual degree of green versus red sensitivity, or blue versus yellow . You have to be specific. All are somewhat green depressed, but it can significantly vary how much, and distinctly influence the correct filter factor. And when it comes to foliage, a remarkable amount of red light also gets reflected. Then you've still got one orthochromatic film left on the market, Fuji Acros, which has limited red sensitivity. As far as green filters per se, a light yellow-green filter like a Hoya XO or Wratten 11 does not in fact behave just like a weaker version of a medium deep green like a Hoya X1 or Wratten 58. I happen to carry both, and use them for very different reasons.

For example, in portraiture, the excessive red sensitivity of some pan films can result in a paste-like rendering of pale Caucasian skintones. A mild yellow-green tames that, and gives a rendering much like Acros without a filter. But a deep green filter would accentuate creases and age spots etc, somewhat like actual orthochromatic film was once deliberately used for portraits of older men to deliberately produce a weatherbeaten rugged look.
 

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I too have rarely used the green filter. I am more likely to use an infrared film.

The time I use green filters most is on my Foveon sensor IR camera (an old SD14 with the dust filter taken out) for some reason this can get an aerochrome like appearance SOOC - Results are quite different to any of my Bayer type digital IR shots. Though results vary wildly with which #58 filter I use (I have 3 #58 filters with very different IR transmissions).
Sorry for going off topic to digital!
 
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The time I use green filters most is on my Foveon sensor IR camera (an old SD14 with the dust filter taken out) for some reason this can get an aerochrome like appearance SOOC - Results are quite different to any of my Bayer type digital IR shots. Though results vary wildly with which #58 filter I use (I have 3 #58 filters with very different IR transmissions).
Sorry for going off topic to digital!

You had me worried there for a sec! Almost had to put my moderator toque on 😄
 
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...so there is no confusion, a toque is what we wear on our heads in Canada during winter. I think American's call them beanies. I'll most likely be wearing one when I go out the door this morning, with camera! 😄
 

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Very nice. I enjoyed your video and like to hear the thought process..........With my cursory view on my cell phone........ I prefer the unfiltered, normally processed one on the first day. I think that turned out pretty good given the overcast. And I prefer the unfiltered, shot on the second day with the ZIII placement. Perhaps an in-person assessment might change things, but not a fan of the color changes with the choice of toner.....
 
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The green filter is one that I do not deploy very often. My yellows, and reds get used more often. Just wondering how often photrio members out there use a green filter...

Andrew: The shot with the green filter is the best of the three. The darker brick on the green filter shot just looks better. The tones look better as well. The last underexposed looks too busy because all the tones seem to converge. Thanks also for freely bracketing. Although not exactly related to exposure, your experimentation reminds others that there's more to bracketing besides how much light you need.
 
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They are indeed hard to find. Luckily I still have a few Wratten greens, as well as a Marumi glass filter.

Here are green filters including #58 and others
 
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Here are green filters including #58 and others

Now that I look closely, it seems they are all Special Order for #58 green.
 
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As a relatively new LF photographer, I appreciated watching your tortured expressions as you were calculating all the stop changes required. I thought that was only me. :smile:
 

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...so there is no confusion, a toque is what we wear on our heads in Canada during winter. I think American's call them beanies. I'll most likely be wearing one when I go out the door this morning, with camera! 😄

Almost correct. Stupid Americans call them beanies, but they are ski hats, snowboarding hats or the most accurate name is toque. Just do not go one toque over the line.
 

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Almost correct. Stupid Americans call them beanies, but they are ski hats, snowboarding hats or the most accurate name is toque. Just do not go one toque over the line.

Sweet Jesus! That song is now stuck in my head since reading this post, it won't leave...........thanks.
 

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Almost correct. Stupid Americans call them beanies, but they are ski hats, snowboarding hats or the most accurate name is toque. Just do not go one toque over the line.

Did you at least have the decency to wash your hands after typing that?

The problem with calling it a toque is that's also what a chef's hat is called. And my great-great-grandfather would have called it a tuque.
 

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Did you at least have the decency to wash your hands after typing that?

The problem with calling it a toque is that's also what a chef's hat is called. And my great-great-grandfather would have called it a tuque.

No I wiped them on your walls. You can thank me later. I cannot not fix their stupid.
 

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Almost correct. Stupid Americans call them beanies, but they are ski hats, snowboarding hats or the most accurate name is toque. Just do not go one toque over the line.

I know the military call them watch caps.
 
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