The problem is they stop taking their meds.
If you believe that you're either not paying attention or living in a bubble.
Do you find that after security at the mall reads that, they let you go ahead and photograph customers and their children?
If you believe that you're either not paying attention or living in a bubble.
Ditto!
Also, I have no idea what leaded gasoline has to do with violence!
As a moderator, I'm shaking my head at all the places this thread has been.
But I'll take my moderator's hat off to say: children are a source of joy for so many people, and they make for wonderful photos. The suspicion that has arose around the desire of photographers to take photos of children for perfectly positive and healthy reasons is a tragedy.
Ditto!
Also, I have no idea what leaded gasoline has to do with violence!
Leaded gasoline releases lead into the environment. Lead is highly toxic to humans, IRRC it affects brain development and thus may well affect one's self control. BTW again, IRRC, lead is very difficult to remove from one's body.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/ Just for you ol' buddy 'ol pal.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkn...ricas-violent-crime-epidemic/?sh=7340084112c4
That old Ethyl sure was a wonder invention.
I really don’t see what leaded gasoline has to do with this thread, or for that matter with this forum.
This is pretty simple. Discussing societal norms on photrio is not going to help making better photos.
Your actionable item here is to conform to these societal norms or not. Being a conformist is safe and requires no effort. However, anything truly great only comes from crossing the boundaries and showing a middle finger to someone or something. Yes, this means risking a fistfight with a moron father in a park.
This is true not just with photography but with everything. However, you have to be selective with your non-conformism, because if you stop following the rules on everything you'll quickly end up in jail or dead. When it comes to photography, I choose to conform. I ask people's permission, I avoid kids altogether, etc. My results are shit of course, but I am lucky to have bigger passions to reserve my middle finger for.
Leaded gasoline releases lead into the environment. Lead is highly toxic to humans, IRRC it affects brain development and thus may well affect one's self control. BTW again, IRRC, lead is very difficult to remove from one's body.
I really don’t see what leaded gasoline has to do with this thread, or for that matter with this forum.
A perceived uptick in violent society has led to people being more protective in public. I postulated that society is less violent than ever and backed it up with data and the reason why society is less violent today then in the past.
In the US lead was removed from gasoline many years ago.
Most of us will prioritize the fears and concerns of those around us respecting children over the extremely little value of one more photograph in the sea of photography.
People are afraid of the world because they've been told to be afraid. They'll over shelter their children and lash out at strangers. Statistics and data does not back up this fear.
Some of us prioritize great work over personality faults and mental disorders of those around us.
There never were school shootings like we have now. Videos of crimes are readily available today. What we used to just read about we can now see. Some of it is really scary. Nuts are walking around. We used to institutionalize them years ago. So the danger level has escalated; people are scared for their kids and themselves.
Key points
- The vast majority of violent acts are not due to mental illness, and most people with mental illness are not violent.
- When people with mental illness do commit violence, it is often due to contextual or background factors such as a history of childhood physical abuse, living in poor and/or dangerous neighborhoods, or using substances.
- Factors that predict violence in general—antisocial behavior, substance use, and anger issues, for example—also predict violence in individuals with mental illness.
I frequently take pictures of children in the local parks with absolutely no problem. I keep at a distance that doesn’t intrude into their playing space. Often I engage in a conversation with the parents.
And the vast majority of photographs of children are not great - even if they are made by photographers who have made great photographs in the past, or will make great photographs in the future - of other subjects.
I am sure that there are specific situations where it is necessary to photograph children to tell very important stories. But I am equally sure that those situations are rare, ... the societal value of those photographs is so little in comparison with the value of privacy and security for children, as to be not worthy of consideration. Take steps to protect those concerns - e.g. obtaining informed consent - and those concerns disappear.
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