Pentaxuser, for Gawd sake, let it go. Stop spending bandwidth on speculating. Whether you make sense of the pricing or reintroduction of Acros does not matter. Fuji does not care if their record fills you with confidence. The market will ultimately decide if the new product is successful. Go take some photographs with some Acros.It would seem that Fuji were dissatisfied with the demand that the then existing Acros users were generating hence it discontinuation but somehow it was persuaded on some kind of presumably reliable evidence that a new and higher demand would be there for the Acros II. Clearly if Acros demand wasn't good enough then Acros II demand has to be considerably greater to make the investment worthwhile.
Quite apart from whether Acros II is worth the price being asked there remains this question of what was the evidence that new Acros II would generate an appreciably larger demand at a bigger price. The news of Acros II and heralded with the proverbial fanfare of trumpets was that it was just as good as the original Acro but not better i.e it was the same stuff . What usually justifies a price is a better product such as is the case with Ilford MG V as opposed to IV
I really cannot make any sense of this.
Kodachromeguy, if you don't like my speculative questions on Fuji's actions that cause me to wonder what lay behind the whole matter of dropping Acros then restarting Acros and the resulting price increase then I respectfully suggest you stop reading them.Pentaxuser, for Gawd sake, let it go. Stop spending bandwidth on speculating. Whether you make sense of the pricing or reintroduction of Acros does not matter. Fuji does not care if their record fills you with confidence. The market will ultimately decide if the new product is successful. Go take some photographs with some Acros.
Henning, I've been watching that subforum over the last three months but your complete report has not yet appeared. Can you estimate when it might be posted? I'm very interested to learn what you found about ACROS II's characteristic curve in the high value region and how it might vary depending on developer. Thank you very much in advance....a small difference concerning the characteristic curve in the highlights (with some developers). I will not go into detail here. In the next days I will post a complete test report in the BW film subforum. Stay tuned...
As of today, April 17, for USA buyers, B&H shows 135 size Acros II at $11.99/roll. During the latter part of 2019, the original Acros in 3-packs cost about $30-35 from Japanese and even some American sellers via eBay. So this new version is approximately the same price per roll. In my opinion, the price is not unreasonable. The Acros is really an amazing emulsion. It rewards careful use (tripod) with the best quality glass. We are lucky that Fuji brought it back to the market.
Those are my sentiments as well. No surprise there if you have read any of my postsMy invoices show that I was paying $6/roll of Acros I just before it was discontinued. I will not pay a 100% price increase to shoot Acros II.
Not sure if this is much better, but Glass Key in San Francisco sells it for $9.99.At $12 a roll I will not buy any - full stop.
It was advertised at £1.75 for a 120 roll in December 2007 and was then cheaper than Ilford and Kodak by quite a bit. The rate of inflation since then in the U.K. means that it should now be about £2.50The price increase is simply not reasonable. Any product of just about any kind that increases in price by nearly 100% is something I will drop instantly.
Not sure if this is much better, but Glass Key in San Francisco sells it for $9.99.
http://www.glasskeyphoto.com/film35/fuji-acros-ii-35mm
So I guess you guys all approved of Japanese companies dumping product, eh?
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Exactly one month later, we finally had a day completely clear of clouds to expose the film. I processed it and am extraordinarily pleased. Developed in Perceptol 1+1 for 8 minutes 30 seconds at 74 degrees F, plunging the loaded reel directly into developer, agitating continuously for the first minute, then five seconds at the start of each subsequent minute, results were fb-f of 0.25, EI of 100 and Contrast Index of 0.52. Grain is nearly invisible and, while I didn't photograph an Edmunds chart (nor are the half-century-old Olympus camera and lens capable of ultra-high resolution), examining the few frames of outdoor scenes I did expose reveals very good sharpness and acutance. A characteristic curve is included here, with horizontal axis numbers representing zones I through X. I didn't go past zone X, but measured the fully exposed leader end. DMax was 2.80....After an off-topic exchange with Chip in the Soap Box recently, I was inspired and ordered three 35mm rolls of ACROS II from B&H. It's due to be delivered Monday. That should be enough to wring it out and see what it can do...
At $12 a roll I will not buy any - full stop.
That leaves more for me.Nope. Me either. I’d much rather have Tmax or Delta, especially considering those two are literally half the price of Acros.
That leaves more for me.
I've not performed apples-to-apples comparisons in 35mm. However, based on recent experience with 120 versions of those Kodak and Ilford films, I'd say ACROS II is finer-grained, exhibits higher acutance/sharpness and, obviously, blows them away in avoiding reciprocity failure. I also like the ACROS II better in terms of curve shape.Sal,
Do you have any thoughts yet on the Acros II film as compared to TMX or Delta 100?
Tom
Henning, I've been watching that subforum over the last three months but your complete report has not yet appeared. Can you estimate when it might be posted? I'm very interested to learn what you found about ACROS II's characteristic curve in the high value region and how it might vary depending on developer. Thank you very much in advance.
I have been fighting some severe health issues for quite a long time, and have been only slowly recovering. Furthermore at the same time my life has also been severely impacted by further Covid-19 crisis factors. So several fights at the same time, and on different layers.
I hope that you're doing better, and recover quickly!
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