Pentax announces that they're working on new film cameras!

Cholentpot · Jan 31, 2023

I'm using a Pentax Su

dutchsteammachine said:
Well, one super 8 cartridge has room for approximately 3500 individual frames. There are a bunch of super 8 cams that have single frame mode.

So you could take 3500 photos with one cartridge.

I love my inconvenient pointless small format photos and even for me this is a step too far.

faberryman · Jan 31, 2023

dutchsteammachine said:
Well, one super 8 cartridge has room for approximately 3500 individual frames. There are a bunch of super 8 cams that have single frame mode.

So you could take 3500 photos with one cartridge.

The frame size of Super8 is 5.8mm x 4.01mm, which is roughly a quarter the size of Minox. The quality leaves a lot to be desired, unless of course you like quality which leaves a lot to be desired for aesthetic reasons, in which case it is still quality which leaves a lot to be desired, but you get to wear a beret and jodphurs, and carry around a megaphone.

Cholentpot · Jan 31, 2023

faberryman said:
The frame size of Super8 is 5.8mm x 4.01mm, which is roughly a quarter the size of Minox. The quality leaves a lot to be desired, unless of course you like quality which leaves a lot to be desired for aesthetic reasons, in which case it is still quality which leaves a lot to be desired, but you get to wear a beret and jodphurs, and carry around a megaphone.

Minox is the smallest I'll go. At some point you need to be honest with yourself and understand that the mush your looking at isn't a very good photo due to the lack of quality.

Now, some would say that about 110, or even 35mm. We all have our cutoff points. I think it'd be more that I don't want to lug around a Super8 system to get such a tiny negative. And if you want anything near quality for still it'd be a beast of a super8 camera. Maybe even with a separate battery pack...but is it doable?

No. Nope. Not going to think about it. No no no. I'm not going to talk myself into this. No way jose.

MattKing · Jan 31, 2023

Cholentpot said:
love my inconvenient pointless small format photos

If you are looking for a Photrio "signature", this one would be fun

Cholentpot · Jan 31, 2023

MattKing said:
If you are looking for a Photrio "signature", this one would be fun

Sure. There's a whole group of us doing this. It's fun and a learning experience.

faberryman · Jan 31, 2023

Cholentpot said:
Sure. There's a whole group of us doing this. It's fun and a learning experience.

Some of us have already had learning experiences with Minox and 110 many, many years ago. They were more interesting than fun. I prefer larger negatives to smaller ones, but it takes all kinds, so enjoy your journey.

Cholentpot · Jan 31, 2023

faberryman said:
Some of us have already had learning experiences with Minox and 110 many, many years ago. They were more interesting than fun. I prefer larger negatives to smaller ones, but it takes all kinds, so enjoy your journey.

Yes but how much can you squeeze out of that tiny negative? We're doing it voluntarily. Much like the rest of the analog film community. It's fun because there's a choice. In the bad old days no-one was reloading 110 carts with film not intended for it. With modern tech you can pull vast amounts of info out of the little 16mm strip that was never possible 30 years ago. It's pushing the format to its limits.

dutchsteammachine · Feb 1, 2023

Cholentpot said:
Minox is the smallest I'll go. At some point you need to be honest with yourself and understand that the mush your looking at isn't a very good photo due to the lack of quality.

Now, some would say that about 110, or even 35mm. We all have our cutoff points. I think it'd be more that I don't want to lug around a Super8 system to get such a tiny negative. And if you want anything near quality for still it'd be a beast of a super8 camera. Maybe even with a separate battery pack...but is it doable?

No. Nope. Not going to think about it. No no no. I'm not going to talk myself into this. No way jose.

But it gets better, read this:

I could get a C-mount to Canon FD/Nikon F adapter for my super 8 camera's and mount it to my Canon FD 400mm. Super 8 has a 6x crop factor compared to 35mm so that would result in a 2400mm equivalent.

Then you could also take ultra extreme telephoto footage, but I can't imagine keeping it steady...

Cholentpot · Feb 1, 2023

dutchsteammachine said:
But it gets better, read this:

I could get a C-mount to Canon FD/Nikon F adapter for my super 8 camera's and mount it to my Canon FD 400mm. Super 8 has a 6x crop factor compared to 35mm so that would result in a 2400mm equivalent.

Then you could also take ultra extreme telephoto footage, but I can't imagine keeping it steady...

I did something like this with an Auto 110. It didn't work out too well having stacked teleconverters.

Roger Cole · Feb 1, 2023

pbromaghin said:
Exactly. Why on earth would I ever want to deal with a little handheld POS when there are such things as full-size keyboards and 22" monitors?

Because I HAVE my phone all the time, including when I'm waiting somewhere with time to kill but my PC is back home.

waynecrider · Feb 1, 2023

On January 9, 2023 Ricoh Imaging announced the Ricoh GR III Diary Edition Special Limited Kit. The package features the Ricoh GR III in a metallic, warm-gray finish plus specially designed accessories: a case, a strap, a flash contact cover, and a matching ring around the lens. The camera... read at Pentax forum

faberryman · Feb 1, 2023

waynecrider said:
On January 9, 2023 Ricoh Imaging announced the Ricoh GR III Diary Edition Special Limited Kit. The package features the Ricoh GR III in a metallic, warm-gray finish plus specially designed accessories: a case, a strap, a flash contact cover, and a matching ring around the lens. The camera... read at Pentax forum

So $1150. I think they are going to need to offer a less expensive camera for a wider market. It appears they do have the capability to make a compact film camera, so that's encouraging.

BradS · Feb 1, 2023

waynecrider said:
On January 9, 2023 Ricoh Imaging announced the Ricoh GR III Diary Edition Special Limited Kit.

...but...that's....NOT...a film camera. ????

https://www.ricoh-imaging.co.jp/english/products/gr-3/special/diary/

faberryman · Feb 1, 2023

BradS said:
...but...that's....NOT...a film camera.

Oops. Not sure why someone would mention Pentax offering a new digital camera in this thread.

dutchsteammachine · Feb 2, 2023

From the looks of it, most people are hoping for a camera in the 400-500 dollar range.

Agulliver · Feb 2, 2023

dutchsteammachine said:
From the looks of it, most people are hoping for a camera in the 400-500 dollar range.

That's the hope and logical price point.....because that's the upper end of what people are paying for excellent working examples of things like the Olympus Mju cameras. Presumably the proposed new Pentax P&S will not be a limited edition and the intention will be to manufacture it for several years....spreading the R&D and tooling up costs out over a length of time. That would have a positive impact on the price.

pbromaghin · Feb 3, 2023

Roger Cole said:
Because I HAVE my phone all the time, including when I'm waiting somewhere with time to kill but my PC is back home.

Ya, that's just me. I pretty much don't use my phone other than as a phone. Growing up as the youngest sibling in a household full of sisters I learned early-on how to kill time in public back when Dick Tracy still had the only 2-way wrist tv in the world.

Roger Cole · Feb 3, 2023

I almost never use my phone as a phone. It''s really a very portable, always with me, almost always connected, tiny computer that just happens to have a voice app for making calls too, on the rare occasions I need that.

I think "phone" is a misnomer for smart phones, really. They are much more computers than they are phones.

BradS · Feb 4, 2023

Roger Cole said:
...

I think "phone" is a misnomer for smart phones, really. They are much more computers than they are phones.

It's a battery operated, pocket super computer with a color touch screen. It's really an amazing thing!

faberryman · Feb 4, 2023

BradS said:
It's a battery operated, pocket super computer with a color touch screen. It's really an amazing thing!

And it does things we never knew we needed to do, but now find our lives incomplete without doing them.

Agulliver · Feb 5, 2023

The smart phone is, indeed, rarely used as a phone. I have horrific anxiety around phone calls anyway so having several messenger apps suits me fine. My phone is indeed a pocket computer with functions I could not dare even imagine when I first used home computers some 42 years ago. I can control my entire home A/V system and heater/air con with it....I can take my own entertainment for a long haul flight, it's a decent-ish camera especially in pro mode. I can record memos, meetings and even concerts, make half decent videos....and share them within seconds or even stream live. I have full, unlimited access to the internet and www across the UK and continental Europe...But if I use it as a phone once a week, that's a lot for me.

I revived the spousal unit's Konica Z-Up 140 compact 35mmm P&S for our upcoming 25th anniversary party....going to have 35mm and 110 P&S cameras on tables so people can shoot film. As I have the cameras already, it works out cheaper than using single use cameras as we did for our 10th. It was this Pentax project that got me thinking about the idea.

4season · May 11, 2023

0:34 view of 3D-printed prototype lens barrel
1:22 Exakta V is shown? I don't get it.
1:27 Unknown (to me) silver camera, maybe old prototype?

Sounds as if compact film camera is progressing! Much talk of wanting lever-wind mechanism, and the struggle of younger engineers have in understanding what was once a common feature.
8:26 "It's time for film!"

armadsen · May 11, 2023

Good news all around. I’m very excited to see what they come up with and plan to support their efforts by buying it.

4season · May 11, 2023

Dismantled SLR briefly shown is a P3/P30. Wonder if they chose to study that particular model because it's the last(?) lever-wind camera that they designed. Though not a pro-level camera, it's a good solid design once you replace an internal dampener which turns into sticky goo.

Mention is made of receiving words of support from manufacturers: Wonder if Copal is one of them.

cmacd123 · May 11, 2023

The AP logo on his hoodie is a cute touch. Hard to say why they were showing the exacta, other than it was also an early SLR. I wonder if the chrome body was from the very short lived "K" series? (quickly repleced by the "M" series.)

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