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The late SMC 135/4 Macro is distortion free and sharp, and light enough to carry around whole day in the bushes. It works well for portraits too.

I just ordered a 135/4 yesterday, will report my impresions once I get to use it.

flavio - the vast majority of user replies on the Pentax Forum are in relation to actual P67 camera use.
It used to be the case, but if you look carefully, for lenses from 90mm up, you'll see lots of users putting the lenses on K-1 and other cameras. I'm referring at the "lens reviews" section of the site:


Going the opposite direction, people have successfully adapted all kinds of vintage-look lenses to P67 bodies, including projector lenses.

Yes, i've seen it, but I never have seen results that would justify the trouble (& cost) over using regular Pentax lenses. People adapt things like 120/2.0 lenses but it doesn't make too much sense to me, for example 120/2.0 = 60mm = same physical aperture as a 168/2.8 (the 165/2.8 Pentax is far cheaper). Depth of field is already really really narrow with most P6x7 lenses.
 

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My kit was the 45mm, the 55mm, the 105mm, and the 200mm. All were excellent lenses. The 105 came with the body I bought.

My issue was the crop that the penta prism viewfinder gave. I preferred the waist level finder, especially the 45, but vertical shots were impossible. I gave the entire kit to my brother and now use my Cambo 23SF & 'Blads mostly.
 

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Yes, i've seen it, but I never have seen results that would justify the trouble (& cost) over using regular Pentax lenses. People adapt things like 120/2.0 lenses but it doesn't make too much sense to me, for example 120/2.0 = 60mm = same physical aperture as a 168/2.8 (the 165/2.8 Pentax is far cheaper). Depth of field is already really really narrow with most P6x7 lenses.
I think there are two main reasons for adapting other lenses to the Pentax 67. One is for long tele work and the other is for lens character, like bubble bokeh.
 

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Well, I doubt you're going to find better tele lenses per se than the dedicated later ones Pentax themselves made, which also happen to have excellent bokeh. But someone might want a more "dreamy" look based on this or that old lens formula, so that kind of adaptation does occur.

The fellow who sold me my first P67 setup specialized in Celestron telescopes, the whole line of P67 equip of that time, plus Nikon tele stuff. His personal work also revolved around tele photography. His favorite setup was big heavy 8X10 Toyo G view camera with a massive tripod, with a superbly corrected Apo Nikkor 360/9 process lens on the front, and the option of several cameras at the rear plane, including both P67, Nikon film SLR's, and Nikon digital DSLR's. But he also adapted Celestron scopes for P67 usage.

The astro photography crowd made optional vacuum backs for P67's, which allowed backless 220 film to be held exceptionally flat and precise. A couple of their favorite lenses were the 300 EDIF and 400 EDIF 6x7 ones.
 
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I have adapted projection lenses (ISCO/Schneider Cinelux for 70mm film) and Petzval lenses to P67, mainly for their unique look when wide open. They were both quite cheap and I already have them, thus only need M65 helicoid and M65 to P67 adapter.

But I do think it is a bit too much to pay $800+ for Cinelux project lenses with custom built aperture control. There are already tons of great choices in short tele lenses of native P67 mount.
 

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I just ordered a 135/4 yesterday, will report my impresions once I get to use it.

IMO the 135 Macro is a much underrated lens. I took this photo with it at an outdoor exhibit of Dahlia's at SF's Golden Gate Park pointed straight down over a fence using no flash or filter:

Dehlia-Golden Gate Park.jpg
 

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Either the 105 or 165 do fine closeups with an extension ring. I've done a little of that; but about 95% of that kind of work I've done with 4X5 monorail gear instead, so never had the incentive to buy the dedicated 6X7
135 macro lens itself.
 

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@DREW WILEY Off topic from the recent posts in this thread, but as someone with 300EDIF experience I was wondering if you might be able to provide some insight on a question I've always had. In the past, I've seen multiple comments lamenting that the 200mm lens + 1.4x converter provides nearly the same results as the 300; or, close enough that one probably couldn't see any difference at normal print sizes and viewing distances. What say you?

Thank you.
 

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Oh no. The effect with a 200 plus teleconverter would be distinctly inferior. Been there, done that. The EDIF series, of which the 300 is the shortest example, are much better corrected. Like I earlier insinuated, every complaint I've read about these lenses was due to insufficient tripod and head support for something this bulky and heavy. But due to the rotating tripod collar, it is easier to balance the 300 EDIF than the previous 300 Takumar.

The EDIF's are distinctly sharper too, and significantly, don't have any halo with certain black and white contrast filters due to their nearly apo degree of correction. The older 300 Takumar style isn't a shabby lens at all, but does exhibit a bit of halo around high contrast edges with red filters; it works best with deep green filters instead. Color images also have a bit of halo (or "color fringing" in that case), not enough to be distracting in a magazine or book reproduction, but potentially evident in larger prints. Let's just say that the 300 Takumar is like a reliable ordinary Ford or Chevy, while the EDIF is a Ferrari.

I happen to print very precisely, and don't subscribe to that "normal viewing distance" BS. You can print any image as big as you want; but I like em crisp nose-up with reading glasses on. I'm fine with esthetic exceptions to that, but not as an excuse for sloppy camera use or haphazard enlarging technique. These 300 6X7 lenses will separate the men from the boys when it comes to tripod stability, in a manner shorter teles up to 200mm will not. Nor should 6x6 teles like for Hassie be compared with respect to tripod needs, which are significantly lighter.
 
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IMO the 135 Macro is a much underrated lens. I took this photo with it at an outdoor exhibit of Dahlia's at SF's Golden Gate Park pointed straight down over a fence using no flash or filter:

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I have the older 135mm macro(not really macro) and have never had the desire to obtain the latest version. It's a superb lens in my book.
 

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I forgot to mention that the 300EDIF does not have a hard stop at the infinity position like their previous teles. It actually rotates a bit beyond that, apparently to precisely accommodate certain selective wavelengths and their filters in astro photography. That fact might lead to some people setting infinity focus incorrectly under more ordinary situations. I routinely use the 300EDIF with an accessory flip-up prism magnifier to double-check the focus. It's remarkably crisp even wide open, and will focus much closer than the 300 Takumar too.

The 300 Takumars are ridiculously affordable right now, even in really good condition. I still keep one around, if I need to leave it behind in a car, for example, when I'm out hiking. It would be easy to replace if stolen.

The EDIF's are selling around half the price as they did a few years ago - still relatively expensive, however.
 
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